Is a specific place designated for voluntary prayer other than the place where the obligatory prayer was performed, only on Friday, or is it for all occasions?
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The student : In *Riyad al-Saliheen*, a hadith from Mu'awiyah is mentioned, in which Mu'awiyah said to a person, whose name I think was... He said to him: "When you have prayed Jumu'ah, do not pray after it unless you move from one place to another; because he informed us, or we were in the time of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him), that when we prayed, we would move from one place to another." The hadith was mentioned in the commentary as evidence that it is obligatory to move from one place to another after the sunnah, or after the obligatory prayer, or speaking... The hadith is specifically about Friday because he said, "When you have prayed Jumu'ah..." So is it in every prayer?
The Shaykh : One of the scientific benefits is that mentioning a thing does not negate what is other than it; so the fact that he mentioned Jumu'ah and not others does not mean that others do not take its ruling; mentioning a thing does not negate what is other than it due to the shared nature, this is an obligatory prayer and the other prayer is an obligatory prayer; but if the ruling is specific to something more important than the obligatory prayers, then what is less than them is not attached to them; and so today, on this occasion, some of them understood that this ruling applies even between the pre-prayer sunnah and the obligatory prayer; so we said, no, this is a specific ruling between the obligatory prayer and the sunnah that follows it; so mentioning the hadith for Jumu'ah does not mean, for example, that the Zuhr obligatory prayer is not so, this is from one aspect; from another aspect, there is a hadith in Sunan Abu Dawud that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him).
The student : In the Jumu'ah prayer.
The Shaykh : He moves absolutely, meaning this is a radical answer to your question; but if this hadith did not exist, it would not be understood from the first hadith that it is specific to the Jumu'ah prayer.
The student : If he said, "When you have prayed Jumu'ah."
The Shaykh : Yes, he mentioned Jumu'ah, but mentioning a thing does not negate what is other than it, like if he said, "When you have prayed Zuhr"; well, does that mean 'Asr, is that not so? No. Oh Allah, may Allah preserve you; and this is in reality the Arabs - please pour on the left and give on the right, why are we coming here? Not to learn? It is difficult for you because you are not used to it, welcome, in the name of Allah.
The Arabs, although the message originated from them through Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) and was then directed to him directly, were supposed to be the most concerned of all peoples in understanding and applying this Arabic message; but nevertheless, we find that the Arabs in later times did not fulfill this duty that it was fitting for them to fulfill; many of the sunnahs are not cared for by the Arabs in some countries, unlike some of the non-Arabs who care for them completely, among which is what we were discussing just now, one of us prays the obligatory prayer and then stands to pray the sunnah, and you notice this especially on Friday due to the large crowd, he stands and prays the sunnah in the same place where he prayed the obligatory prayer, he does not move, not his feet, not behind, not right, not left; while the Turks have care, especially for this issue, and I have seen some people there also do that, he prays here, his brother there, they exchange places, this is a good thing.
The student : If he moves forward a step, meaning fifty centimeters.
The Shaykh : It is done, the situation is fine, there is no adjustment, the important thing is that he changes the place where he prayed.
The student : I, two or three days ago, I considered it a type of...
The Shaykh : Meaning a custom that has no basis, yes.
The student : Resulting from ignorance of its ruling.
The Shaykh : Likewise, you will find the Turks pray a precise prayer, even within the limits of their madhhab, meaning, but what they know, they apply it, if you see Turks lined up in a row in the Prophet's Mosque or in the Sacred Mosque, you will not find one who, when he sits in the tashahhud, puts one leg over the other, but all of them spread their left leg and stand their right leg.
The student : They follow the madhhab of Abu Hanifah.
The Shaykh : This is their madhhab.
The student : If you look at the row, you will not find one who has care.
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner : We have little of it.
The Shaykh : Yes, there is no care, meaning take your hand and walk.
The student : The way he is comfortable in... regardless of adherence.
The Shaykh : There is no interest.
The student : ... one next to me when he sits in the prayer... when I sit in the final tawarruk...
The Shaykh : Correct, meaning his saying (peace and blessings be upon him):Sahih al-Bukhari 6008. It is completely neglected and not cared for by all people except those whom Allah protects, and they are few.
The student : Today, in a book, as if it is a saying of Imam Ahmad, I read in a book that says: "If the one who improves his prayer sees the one who spoils his prayer and does not forbid him, and adds a part of the spoilage that the one who spoiled it did, because he did not teach him," this means.
The Shaykh : One of the scientific benefits is that mentioning a thing does not negate what is other than it; so the fact that he mentioned Jumu'ah and not others does not mean that others do not take its ruling; mentioning a thing does not negate what is other than it due to the shared nature, this is an obligatory prayer and the other prayer is an obligatory prayer; but if the ruling is specific to something more important than the obligatory prayers, then what is less than them is not attached to them; and so today, on this occasion, some of them understood that this ruling applies even between the pre-prayer sunnah and the obligatory prayer; so we said, no, this is a specific ruling between the obligatory prayer and the sunnah that follows it; so mentioning the hadith for Jumu'ah does not mean, for example, that the Zuhr obligatory prayer is not so, this is from one aspect; from another aspect, there is a hadith in Sunan Abu Dawud that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him)
The Imam forbade praying in the place where the obligatory prayer was performed, and he must move.
نهى الإمام أن يصلي في المكان الذي صلى فيه الفرض ، وعليه أن يتحولThe student : In the Jumu'ah prayer.
The Shaykh : He moves absolutely, meaning this is a radical answer to your question; but if this hadith did not exist, it would not be understood from the first hadith that it is specific to the Jumu'ah prayer.
The student : If he said, "When you have prayed Jumu'ah."
The Shaykh : Yes, he mentioned Jumu'ah, but mentioning a thing does not negate what is other than it, like if he said, "When you have prayed Zuhr"; well, does that mean 'Asr, is that not so? No. Oh Allah, may Allah preserve you; and this is in reality the Arabs - please pour on the left and give on the right, why are we coming here? Not to learn? It is difficult for you because you are not used to it, welcome, in the name of Allah.
The Arabs, although the message originated from them through Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) and was then directed to him directly, were supposed to be the most concerned of all peoples in understanding and applying this Arabic message; but nevertheless, we find that the Arabs in later times did not fulfill this duty that it was fitting for them to fulfill; many of the sunnahs are not cared for by the Arabs in some countries, unlike some of the non-Arabs who care for them completely, among which is what we were discussing just now, one of us prays the obligatory prayer and then stands to pray the sunnah, and you notice this especially on Friday due to the large crowd, he stands and prays the sunnah in the same place where he prayed the obligatory prayer, he does not move, not his feet, not behind, not right, not left; while the Turks have care, especially for this issue, and I have seen some people there also do that, he prays here, his brother there, they exchange places, this is a good thing.
The student : If he moves forward a step, meaning fifty centimeters.
The Shaykh : It is done, the situation is fine, there is no adjustment, the important thing is that he changes the place where he prayed.
The student : I, two or three days ago, I considered it a type of...
The Shaykh : Meaning a custom that has no basis, yes.
The student : Resulting from ignorance of its ruling.
The Shaykh : Likewise, you will find the Turks pray a precise prayer, even within the limits of their madhhab, meaning, but what they know, they apply it, if you see Turks lined up in a row in the Prophet's Mosque or in the Sacred Mosque, you will not find one who, when he sits in the tashahhud, puts one leg over the other, but all of them spread their left leg and stand their right leg.
The student : They follow the madhhab of Abu Hanifah.
The Shaykh : This is their madhhab.
The student : If you look at the row, you will not find one who has care.
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner : We have little of it.
The Shaykh : Yes, there is no care, meaning take your hand and walk.
The student : The way he is comfortable in... regardless of adherence.
The Shaykh : There is no interest.
The student : ... one next to me when he sits in the prayer... when I sit in the final tawarruk...
The Shaykh : Correct, meaning his saying (peace and blessings be upon him):
offer your prayers in the way you saw me offering my prayers
صلوا كما رأيتموني أصليThe student : Today, in a book, as if it is a saying of Imam Ahmad, I read in a book that says: "If the one who improves his prayer sees the one who spoils his prayer and does not forbid him, and adds a part of the spoilage that the one who spoiled it did, because he did not teach him," this means.
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