The scholar's statement that any statement contradicting this statement is invalid.

The questioner : What is our position regarding these differing opinions that may exist regarding the meaning of the verse and the meaning of the hadith, in terms of a legal ruling? What is the best... What is our position regarding these differing opinions...?

The Shaykh : Our position is that we did not... and we did not base it on a preference we held ourselves, nor did we know of others.

The questioner : Who is it that rules these opinions as invalid and so on, declaring that this is the false one? But you find that when you read the evidence, you see... it is not false as they claim. And this has actually happened in more than one issue and more than one matter.

The Shaykh : When you are serious in your research, you must cite an example. There is a matter in which some of the Imams said that the opinion contradicting ours is invalid, yet you find that this opinion has merit and evidence.

The questioner : The example we are in.

The Shaykh : And what is it?

The questioner : The subject is that prayer expiates sins, both small and large. Indeed, we found that Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal and others among the Imams say that this is an invalid opinion, that one does not rely on the prayer on the basis that this opinion is invalid.

The questioner : The merit.The Shaykh : He says that prayer expiates.

The Shaykh : What do you want from...The Shaykh : You?

The questioner : Is this the evidence?

The Shaykh : No, take his evidence. What do you want with...The Shaykh : There is no difference for you between...The Shaykh : The two, if the evidence is with both of them.

The questioner : Okay, we do not remain with them using the same evidence that we use here, which we consider valid.

The Shaykh : This contradicts your statement. In terms of your statement, we want a statement in which some of the Imams say it is invalid, and the evidence for its invalidity.

The questioner : ... I am saying the statement of the Imams. I brought the statements of the scholars regardless of the evidence. That is, the statements of the scholars, you find that the prevailing one is...

The Shaykh : Do you want to hear your own words that you have forgotten?

The questioner : The statements of the Imams are not just the evidence alone. It is possible that the evidence is with one of them.

The Shaykh : Listen to my statement. I said that what he says is the invalidity of the establishment.

The questioner : I say: This opinion. You say: This opinion is invalid.

The Shaykh : That is, in your saying, as for the evidence of invalidity, if there is evidence, we are with them. If there is no evidence, it is rejected.
We said to him: The answer is with you... And you said that there is evidence for the matter. We took the implication of the evidence and rejected what contradicts it. And if there is no evidence for it, we consider it, prefer one side, and excuse the others.

The questioner : That is, all the evidence that you mentioned, they will give it...?

The Shaykh : No, your problem is that you are repeating the past. It has not changed to the point of being accepted. What is your answer regarding the Hajj? ...