I heard a phrase, which is: "Al-Shafi'i forbade *taghbir*"; what does it mean?

The questioner: My Shaykh, I heard a phrase.

The Shaykh: Yes.

The questioner: Al-Shafi'i (may Allah have mercy on him) forbade *taghbir*. What is *taghbir*? They say: *taghbir* is *dabkah*.

The Shaykh: No, *taghbir* is pounding with a stick or a rod. Do you hear me?

The questioner: I hear you.

The Shaykh : Hmm.

The questioner: With a stick and a rod?

The Shaykh: With a rod, I mean.

The questioner: Ah, I understand, dancing with a rod?

The Shaykh: Striking, striking the stick against something that has an echo, do you hear it or not?

The questioner: I hear, I hear.

The Shaykh: I strike with a pen on the table, if you heard in your time those who pound coffee in the wooden mortar.

The questioner: This is the *mihbaj*.

The Shaykh: I don't know what you call it, you find him doing this, listen.

The questioner: Ah, I heard, I heard.

The Shaykh: Yes, like this.

The questioner: May Allah reward you with good, my Shaykh, may Allah bless you.

The Shaykh : And beware of that.