A question from some of the attendees regarding the claim that the last time for the 'Isha' prayer is the middle of the night, citing the story of Jibril's arrival and his prayer with the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) as evidence?
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The questioner : ... the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) as you mentioned in your explanation ... and on the second or third day
The Shaykh : with the light of dawn
The questioner : with the light of dawn? With the light of dawn, and he prayed the Dhuhr with me when the shadow of an object was equal to its height, and he prayed the 'Asr with me ... .
The Shaykh : We have shown you the shadow of a standing object at the beginning of the time, when the shadow tilts slightly toward the east ... .
The questioner : At first, the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) said, "He prayed the Dhuhr with me when the shadow of an object was equal to its height," this was on the first day ... .
The Shaykh : This, my brother, is on the second day. In any case, you complete the hadith ... it appears to be a mistake in memory ... the text of the hadith from the book
The questioner : Our master, the Shaykh, since on the first day when the sun had passed its zenith , does this mean that the time for the 'Isha' prayer extends from the onset of 'Isha' to the end of the night ... ?
The Shaykh : My brother, you are mistaken in this hadith, and no blame is on you, because regarding the 'Isha' prayer, and even regarding the Fajr prayer, there is no mention whatsoever in this hadith of the breaking of the fast of the fasting people or their abstention. Otherwise, we would recall the wording of the hadith to its end so that it is well understood. So you have one mistake upon another. You assumed that in this hadith he prayed 'Isha' on the second day until the time of the appearance of dawn, meaning where food is forbidden and the fasting people abstain. This does not exist in the hadith at all. And I, to be sure ... now we are looking at the hadith, and then it becomes clear that there is no contradiction between this hadith and the hadith we mentioned that is in "Sahih Muslim", and he (peace and blessings be upon him) saidSahih Muslim 612e, and from Ibn 'Abbas that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said Jami` at-Tirmidhi 149Hasan (Darussalam). Al-sharakh is the strap that follows the sandal, meaning it is short, Jami` at-Tirmidhi 149Hasan (Darussalam) meaning it fell ... Jami` at-Tirmidhi 149Hasan (Darussalam) as I said Jami` at-Tirmidhi 149Hasan (Darussalam). The first time he prayed the 'Isha' prayer when a third of the night had passed Jami` at-Tirmidhi 149Hasan (Darussalam), meaning the light of dawn, Jami` at-Tirmidhi 149Hasan (Darussalam) so the hadith does not contradict the hadith we mentioned.
The questioner : We said that the hadith ... .
The Shaykh : It is not important, in some narrations ... as we said ... so the third would equal the half for some times.
The questioner : Regarding the hadith, it indicates that the time passes ... .
The Shaykh : This hadith indicates this, and therefore in a narration from Imam al-Shafi'i it is said that the time for Maghrib is strange such that it does not allow for more than just praying Maghrib. But it came in the hadith we mentioned earlier, which is the time for the 'Isha' prayer until the middle of the night, that the time for the Maghrib prayer is until the time of 'Isha', and the time for the 'Isha' prayer is until the middle of the night. And you know that there is no problem here, because legislation does not come all at once, but it comes gradually, meaning, this is ...The questioner : There is a hadith about the time ... .
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : No, what is in it...
Another questioner: And the time for Maghrib is the shortest of the times, so a person hastens immediately to perform the prayer.
Another questioner: ...
The Shaykh : Yes,[Al-Baqarah 2:286] because the story occurred in the time of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him), and it was not reported that it is better for making up ... .
Jibril came to me in the Ka'bah and prayed the Fajr with me when the fasting people woke up for the pre-dawn meal, and he prayed the Dhuhr with me when the shadow of an object was equal to its height, and he prayed the 'Asr with me when the shadow of an object was twice its height, and he prayed the Maghrib with me when the red twilight appeared, and he prayed the 'Isha' with me when the red twilight disappeared.
جاءني جبريل في الكعبة فصلى بي الصبح عندما استيقظ الصائمون للسحور وصلي بي الظهر عندما كان ظل الشيء مثله وصلى بي العصر عندما كان ظل الشيء مثليه وصلى بي المغرب عندما ظهر الشفق الأحمر وصلى بي العشاء عندما اختفى الشفق الأحمرJibril came and prayed the Fajr with me when the fasting people abstained ...
جاء جبريل فصلى بي الصبح عندما امتنع الصائمون ...The Shaykh : with the light of dawn
The questioner : with the light of dawn? With the light of dawn, and he prayed the Dhuhr with me when the shadow of an object was equal to its height, and he prayed the 'Asr with me ... .
The Shaykh : We have shown you the shadow of a standing object at the beginning of the time, when the shadow tilts slightly toward the east ... .
The questioner : At first, the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) said, "He prayed the Dhuhr with me when the shadow of an object was equal to its height," this was on the first day ... .
The Shaykh : This, my brother, is on the second day. In any case, you complete the hadith ... it appears to be a mistake in memory ... the text of the hadith from the book
The questioner : Our master, the Shaykh, since on the first day when the sun had passed its zenith
And on the following day when the shadow of an object was equal to its height, and he prayed the 'Asr with me on the following day when the shadow of an object was twice its height, and he prayed the Maghrib with me when the red twilight appeared, and he prayed the 'Isha' with me when the fasting people woke up for the pre-dawn meal.
وفي اليوم التالي عندما كان ظل الشيء مثله، وصلى بي العصر في اليوم التالي عندما كان ظل الشيء مثليه، وصلى بي المغرب عندما ظهر الشفق الأحمر، وصلى بي العشاء عندما استيقظ الصائمون للسحورThe Shaykh : My brother, you are mistaken in this hadith, and no blame is on you, because regarding the 'Isha' prayer, and even regarding the Fajr prayer, there is no mention whatsoever in this hadith of the breaking of the fast of the fasting people or their abstention. Otherwise, we would recall the wording of the hadith to its end so that it is well understood. So you have one mistake upon another. You assumed that in this hadith he prayed 'Isha' on the second day until the time of the appearance of dawn, meaning where food is forbidden and the fasting people abstain. This does not exist in the hadith at all. And I, to be sure ... now we are looking at the hadith, and then it becomes clear that there is no contradiction between this hadith and the hadith we mentioned that is in "Sahih Muslim", and he (peace and blessings be upon him) said
the time for the night prayer is up to the midnight
و وقت صلاة العشاء إلى نصف الليلJibril (peace be upon him) led me (in Salat) twice at the House. So he prayed Zuhr the first time when the shadow was similar to (the length of) the strap a sandal.
أمني جبريل عليه السلام عند البيت مرتين فصلى الظهر في الأولى ومنهما حينما كان الفيء مثل الشراكThen he prayed Asr when everything was similar (to the length of) its shadow. Then he prayed Maghrib when the sun had set
ثم صلى العصر حينما كان كل شيء مثل ظله ثم صلى المغرب حين وجبت الشمسAnd the fasting people broke their fast.
وأفطر الصائمThen he prayed Isha when the twilight had vanished. Then he prayed Fajr when Fajr (dawn) began, and when eating is prohibited for the fasting person. The second time he prayed Zuhr when the shadow of everything was similar to (the length of) it, at the time of Asr the day before. Then he prayed Asr when the shadow of everything was about twice as long as it
ثم صلى العشاء حين غاب الشفق، ثم صلى الفجر حين برق الفجر وحرم الطعام على الصائم، وصلى المرة الثانية الظهر فيما كان ظل كل شيء مثله لوقت العصر بالأمس، ثم صلى العصر حينما كان ظل كل شيء مثليهThen he prayed Maghrib at the same time as he did the first time. Then he prayed Isha, the later one, when a third of the night had gone.
ثم صلى المغرب لوقته الأول، ثم صلى العشاء الآخرة حين ذهب ثلث الليلThen he prayed Subh when the land
ثم صلى الصبح حين ... الأرضThen Jibril turned towards me and said: "O Muhammad! These are the times of the Prophets before you, and the (best) time is what is between these two times."
ثم التفت إلى جبريل فقال يا محمد هذا وقت الأنبياء من قبلك والوقت فيما بين هذين الوقتينThe questioner : We said that the hadith ... .
The Shaykh : It is not important, in some narrations ... as we said ... so the third would equal the half for some times.
The questioner : Regarding the hadith, it indicates that the time passes ... .
The Shaykh : This hadith indicates this, and therefore in a narration from Imam al-Shafi'i it is said that the time for Maghrib is strange such that it does not allow for more than just praying Maghrib. But it came in the hadith we mentioned earlier, which is the time for the 'Isha' prayer until the middle of the night, that the time for the Maghrib prayer is until the time of 'Isha', and the time for the 'Isha' prayer is until the middle of the night. And you know that there is no problem here, because legislation does not come all at once, but it comes gradually, meaning, this is ...The questioner : There is a hadith about the time ... .
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : No, what is in it...
Another questioner: And the time for Maghrib is the shortest of the times, so a person hastens immediately to perform the prayer.
Another questioner: ...
The Shaykh : Yes,