A discussion regarding the ruling on the prayer beads.
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The questioner: May Allah guide you. Today, a question came in on Jordanian television via...
Another questioner: Professor Rafe' Shahin.
The questioner: Shaykh Rafe' Shahin, and he issued a fatwa that the prayer beads are of Christian origin.
Another questioner: Now, what is interesting here is that it was noted in the margin; they had brought three people to ask them.
The questioner: And he issued a fatwa that the prayer beads are of Christian origin without any knowledge or evidence, and for all the people who understand around it and those who do not know, they should cut his throat, okay? The question passed and ended with the statement that the prayer beads are of Christian origin. Not everyone knows, for example, that there are hadiths from the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) that the glorification of Allah is thirty-three times, the remembrance of Allah is thirty-three times, and the hadith to Fatimah and Ali that they should glorify Allah before they sleep thirty-three times, which is better for them than the world and what is in it. And these prayer beads that were found to be thirty-three, why? So the point is that they proved that this is of Christian origin, and then the Muslims inherited it; therefore, the one who wants to carry the prayer beads, according to Rafe' Shahin, is one who follows Christianity or becomes a Christian.
The Shaykh: By Allah, O Abu Shakir, I am arguing with you how... he is publishing this scientific fact.
Another questioner: Indeed, he is insulting the prayer beads and the one who carries the prayer beads that day.
The Shaykh: When was this?
Another questioner: On television, Rafe' Shahin's program, yes, about a week ago.
The Shaykh: So I am surprised.
The questioner: By Allah, I would have liked, if I had not known it was a recording from a previous period, to have called the television station and swept the floor there.
The Shaykh: By Allah, may your Lord have guided you that you did not call!
The questioner: If it were live.
Another questioner: The Shaykh is with the opinion, pay attention.
The Shaykh: You are lost, O Abu Shakir, lost!
Another questioner: We are with him in this statement.
The questioner: Meaning, you are saying that the prayer beads are of Christian origin?
The Shaykh: Not in the sense that you understand it. I am with the man, I say what he said, but I do not understand it the way you understood it. What you understood is in one place, and what he is saying is in another place.
Another questioner: The talk was about the source, O Abu Shakir.
The Shaykh: You, be patient a little now.
Another questioner: It is like this, the question...
The Shaykh: When we told you—may Allah guide you—this is your companion, you... what did you do? You started talking with him.
...
The questioner: Double it, by the way, it is possible to bring one person in pairs, threes, and fours.
The Shaykh: What Allah willed, may Allah increase you in His grace.
Another questioner : May Allah reward you with good.
The questioner: Bring more?
Another questioner : May Allah honor you.
The questioner: My master, the Shaykh.
The Shaykh: Let us get to it so we can talk about it... My master, you rest, may Allah reward you with good.
You interpreted Shahin's words to mean that he denies that I say: Subhan Allah, Subhan Allah, Subhan Allah. That is how you interpreted his words, even though he does not intend that.
The questioner: I did not intend that.
The Shaykh: Do you want to be patient with me a little?
The questioner: Go ahead.
The Shaykh: He intends that; Subhan Allah, Subhan Allah, Subhan Allah, that is what he intends.
The questioner : Who is he?
The Shaykh: Shahin.
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: I am not telling you to interpret, I am telling you what he intends. You understood it this way: that the one who says... Subhan Allah, Subhan Allah, this is a Christian custom.
The questioner: No... it is not that.
The Shaykh: So then you...
The questioner: ...the prayer beads themselves.
The Shaykh: If it is the prayer beads themselves, why did you mix the prayer beads with the hadiths you mentioned?
The questioner: ...the prayer beads.
The Shaykh: Why did you mix between the prayer beads and the hadiths you mentioned earlier? There is no Muslim who denies the hadiths you mentioned earlier, but do the hadiths mean glorifying Allah with the hand or do they mean glorifying Allah with the prayer beads? This is the point of research. If you did not understand from his words that he means glorifying Allah with the prayer beads, then you are misunderstanding him. We say: the Sunnah is that we glorify Allah like this with the hand, but this prayer bead, indeed, as a means, its origin is Christian, indeed...
Another questioner: Professor Rafe' Shahin.
The questioner: Shaykh Rafe' Shahin, and he issued a fatwa that the prayer beads are of Christian origin.
Another questioner: Now, what is interesting here is that it was noted in the margin; they had brought three people to ask them.
The questioner: And he issued a fatwa that the prayer beads are of Christian origin without any knowledge or evidence, and for all the people who understand around it and those who do not know, they should cut his throat, okay? The question passed and ended with the statement that the prayer beads are of Christian origin. Not everyone knows, for example, that there are hadiths from the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) that the glorification of Allah is thirty-three times, the remembrance of Allah is thirty-three times, and the hadith to Fatimah and Ali that they should glorify Allah before they sleep thirty-three times, which is better for them than the world and what is in it. And these prayer beads that were found to be thirty-three, why? So the point is that they proved that this is of Christian origin, and then the Muslims inherited it; therefore, the one who wants to carry the prayer beads, according to Rafe' Shahin, is one who follows Christianity or becomes a Christian.
The Shaykh: By Allah, O Abu Shakir, I am arguing with you how... he is publishing this scientific fact.
Another questioner: Indeed, he is insulting the prayer beads and the one who carries the prayer beads that day.
The Shaykh: When was this?
Another questioner: On television, Rafe' Shahin's program, yes, about a week ago.
The Shaykh: So I am surprised.
The questioner: By Allah, I would have liked, if I had not known it was a recording from a previous period, to have called the television station and swept the floor there.
The Shaykh: By Allah, may your Lord have guided you that you did not call!
The questioner: If it were live.
Another questioner: The Shaykh is with the opinion, pay attention.
The Shaykh: You are lost, O Abu Shakir, lost!
Another questioner: We are with him in this statement.
The questioner: Meaning, you are saying that the prayer beads are of Christian origin?
The Shaykh: Not in the sense that you understand it. I am with the man, I say what he said, but I do not understand it the way you understood it. What you understood is in one place, and what he is saying is in another place.
Another questioner: The talk was about the source, O Abu Shakir.
The Shaykh: You, be patient a little now.
Another questioner: It is like this, the question...
The Shaykh: When we told you—may Allah guide you—this is your companion, you... what did you do? You started talking with him.
...
The questioner: Double it, by the way, it is possible to bring one person in pairs, threes, and fours.
The Shaykh: What Allah willed, may Allah increase you in His grace.
Another questioner : May Allah reward you with good.
The questioner: Bring more?
Another questioner : May Allah honor you.
The questioner: My master, the Shaykh.
The Shaykh: Let us get to it so we can talk about it... My master, you rest, may Allah reward you with good.
You interpreted Shahin's words to mean that he denies that I say: Subhan Allah, Subhan Allah, Subhan Allah. That is how you interpreted his words, even though he does not intend that.
The questioner: I did not intend that.
The Shaykh: Do you want to be patient with me a little?
The questioner: Go ahead.
The Shaykh: He intends that; Subhan Allah, Subhan Allah, Subhan Allah, that is what he intends.
The questioner : Who is he?
The Shaykh: Shahin.
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: I am not telling you to interpret, I am telling you what he intends. You understood it this way: that the one who says... Subhan Allah, Subhan Allah, this is a Christian custom.
The questioner: No... it is not that.
The Shaykh: So then you...
The questioner: ...the prayer beads themselves.
The Shaykh: If it is the prayer beads themselves, why did you mix the prayer beads with the hadiths you mentioned?
The questioner: ...the prayer beads.
The Shaykh: Why did you mix between the prayer beads and the hadiths you mentioned earlier? There is no Muslim who denies the hadiths you mentioned earlier, but do the hadiths mean glorifying Allah with the hand or do they mean glorifying Allah with the prayer beads? This is the point of research. If you did not understand from his words that he means glorifying Allah with the prayer beads, then you are misunderstanding him. We say: the Sunnah is that we glorify Allah like this with the hand, but this prayer bead, indeed, as a means, its origin is Christian, indeed...
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