Does the ma'mum, when he rises from ruku', say what the imam says, or is it sufficient for him to say "Our Lord, to You belongs all praise"?

The questioner : The ma'mum's saying, or the imam's saying, when he rises from ruku': "Allah hears the one who praises Him. Our Lord, to You belongs all praise." Does the ma'mum say what the imam says, or is it sufficient for him to say "Our Lord, to You belongs all praise"?

The Shaykh : No, he is commanded to follow the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) in all his prayer, based on a general text, as is well known. Specification and exception require evidence that specifies or excepts, and there is nothing of that here. This is from one aspect. From another aspect, both the praise (tahmid) and the hearing (tasmi') have their place. The tasmi' is not the tahmid; the tasmi' has its place and the tahmid has its place. That is, when the worshipper says—what concerns us now is whether he is an imam or praying alone—when does he say "Our Lord, to You belongs all praise"? He says it when he is upright and standing. So, if you are praying behind an imam and the imam says "Allah hears the one who praises Him," and you are among those who say the ma'mum is sufficient to say "Our Lord, to You belongs all praise," you are between two things, and both are, as they say, bitter: either you place the Sunnah in the wrong place, or you lose it. And the bitterer of the two is: either you say "Our Lord, to You belongs all praise" while you are raising your head, which is contrary to the Sunnah, or you raise your head from ruku' in silence, and then when you are upright you say "Our Lord, to You belongs all praise," in which case you have lost the recitation of the upright position (i'tidal). Is that clear?

The questioner : Yes.

The Shaykh : The recitation of the upright position. So, the recitation of the upright position is "Allah hears the one who praises Him." You are bowing, and during the rising you say "Allah hears the one who praises Him." You become upright and straighten, and you say "Our Lord, to You belongs all praise." So, if you are behind the imam, either you do this and say "Our Lord, to You belongs all praise," in which case you have lost the recitation of the upright position, or you say "Our Lord, to You belongs all praise," in which case you have lost the recitation after the second standing. And so on. This is contrary to the Sunnah first, and then contrary to the generality of his (peace and blessings be upon him) saying: "Pray as you have seen me praying." As for the hadith that some might cite: This does not mean that the ma'mum does not say "Allah hears the one who praises Him," but rather that he says it after the imam says it, meaning that he follows the imam. This is exactly similar in terms of organization and order to the other hadith which says: This does not mean that the ma'mum does not say "Ameen," as the hadith is explicit in his (peace and blessings be upon him) saying: This hadith clarifies that one. And although the ma'mum's saying "Ameen" here is stronger in terms of its evidence than the ma'mum's praise behind the imam, the result in terms of the legal ruling is the same. Is it or is it not?

The questioner : It is the first of these. Excuse me, this is of course... so that you don't say he brought the Shaykh something he didn't bring us.

The Shaykh : I mean, you are, so to speak, our companion; you have preceded us to the good.
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