The discussion on jihad in Afghanistan.
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The questioner : There is a man here now who has returned from jihad, his name is Abu 'Umar.
The Shaykh : What did he say about the jihad there?
The questioner : By Allah, the news of the jihad, praise be to Allah, is good and brings glad tidings, but the matter is not free from disagreement and some errors.
The questioner : I think I heard or read that the disagreement started politically, meaning other than the sectarian and ethnic disagreements, it started politically. There is this Jalil who started saying that they must accept the Geneva Conference, or that there must be a truce, or something like that, so the disagreement is with the other leaders.
The Shaykh : May Allah protect them from the evil of division.
The questioner : The most dangerous thing is that they accepted the entry of, meaning, Shia members, Shia ministers, into this temporary government, and at the same time they excluded some, or did not include any of the Salafi mujahideen, such as Jamil al-Rahman and others. So this means they are prioritizing some of the Shia and delaying some of the people of the Sunnah.
The Shaykh : There is no doubt this is a grave error.
The questioner : In any case, praise be to Allah.
The questioner : One of our brothers, O Shaykh, from Kuwait went there a while ago and returned. The first place he went to wasThe Shaykh : Abdullah 'Azzam, who is well known there.The Shaykh : Abdullah 'Azzam warns against getting into disagreements with the mujahideen or the tribal leaders. He says, and others say,The Shaykh : Rabee' also went there, so he was warning them.The Shaykh : Abdullah 'Azzam said: We want this, we do not want that, we want this, we do not want that, we do not want... So this brother went to Abdullah 'Azzam and trained with them and with the Sayyaf group, and he has a Salafi orientation. Then he went to Jamil al-Rahman, and... al-Rahman is ostracized there. He and other brothers mentioned that he is ostracized. So if aid comes and it is sufficient, it is not sent to him. He wants to take from the market, but it is not sent to Jamil al-Rahman and others. So this is a shift from Sayyaf and Abdullah 'Azzam to Jamil al-Rahman. So he returned to them wanting the monthly salary they give him, but they refused to give it to him. He is telling me directly... they said: Now you are with Jamil al-Rahman and not with us, so we will not give you a salary. He said: These are aid funds for the mujahideen. They said: We have no involvement; you are with Jamil al-Rahman, so take your salary from Jamil al-Rahman.
The questioner : The problem with Jamil al-Rahman is that he does not have active fronts, and this is what weakened his position among them. If he had fronts, meaning, they say they excuse him by saying he does not have capabilities, but he expanded the fronts greatly and reduced the operations. So if he had few fronts and many operations inside, perhaps he would have established his presence on the Afghan scene more firmly.
The Shaykh : The situation means we are in the correct state for the group. It is not the case that these people are satisfied with the land they occupy or settle in, and that is it. And they say that they will implement the Shari'ah punishments, and I do not know, meaning, news.
The questioner : O Shaykh, this is the Nuristan region. Nuristan is the one that implements the punishments. Jamil al-Rahman has no involvement; his front is different from Nuristan.
The Shaykh : Are they not Afghans?
The questioner : They are Afghans. The Nuristan region has a man, I think his name is Muhammad Afsal, who is the one who applies the punishments. Abdullah 'Azzam causes a lot of confusion for him and for this state.
The Shaykh : And he, Abdullah 'Azzam, unfortunately, even though he has a Salafi orientation, he is overcome by the Ikhwan orientation, yes. Meaning, this partisanship is difficult for a person to give up. And this news that was issued, is it a correct report?
The questioner : It is one hundred percent correct. Yes, and this is from a trusted student of Muhammad ibn Salih al-'Uthaymeen, one of those close to him. A man we consider trustworthy, and Allah is his accountant, meaning, one of the trustworthy students of knowledge. They say more than that, meaning, that there is confusion regarding the callers to tawhid (the oneness of Allah) and the callers to the Sunnah. Severe confusion, meaning.
Al-Halabi : They say: We teach the mujahideen tawhid. There is no need... in five minutes we teach him all of tawhid.
The Shaykh : That means all Muslims are monotheists.
The questioner : .. The Shaykh : 'Abd al-Razzaq said: I teach them in a quarter of an hour. And there were students of Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen from Saudi Arabia who objected to him greatly with this statement, so he withdrew his words in that matter. He said: I did not intend what you are intending...
The questioner : Meaning, our Shaykh, those who go there are threatened: beware of the Sunnah, beware of "Ameen." We do not want "Ameen." "Ameen" causes fitnah (trial, discord or temptation). Moving the finger, raising the hands, meaning, everything that contradicts the Hanafi madhhab (school of jurisprudence). So the Salafi there becomes a Hanafi, meaning, either jihad or what? He gives up these sunnahs (recommended practices). It is difficult for a person to manage jihad and manage the Sunnah. So either he goes with Jamil al-Rahman, meaning, he is forced, and most of the Arabs who went there mean they stay in a state of waiting without entering battles, or he stays with them reluctantly and in disagreement, or he accommodates them in what they are doing.
The Shaykh : I heard that some Arabs from Saudi Arabia entered battles. One of them came to me and told me.
The questioner : They have an independent front, O our Shaykh. Their leader is a man named Usama bin Laden. He has an independent front in the jihad...
The Shaykh : This is a good man.
The questioner : One of our brothers from Zarqa, O our Shaykh, he is from the Muslim Brotherhood, but his madhhab is very good. He used to love us and sit with us. He went to Saudi Arabia and from there he set out for jihad in Afghanistan and is still there. And, by Allah's will, he engaged in battles. He is a young man, strong in body and very brave, by Allah's will. He engaged in very strange battles, and Allah saved him. Kilometers of a car were dragging him and he did not know, and Allah saved him after all this. So when some of the Saudis who were in the jihad there in Peshawar learned of his bravery, they took him to his grandfather and married him to his daughter. So he returned with him there, by Allah's will. And his men there are mujahideen; we consider them to be on the right path.
The Shaykh : How old is he, meaning?
The questioner : He does not exceed twenty-four, meaning, twenty-three or twenty-four.
The Shaykh : Does he have family here?
The questioner : He has family here. He invited his family to attend his wedding in Jeddah, so he went and his entire family went, yes.
The questioner : A final question, ...
The questioner : One of our Salafi brothers from the front came and said: I bring you glad tidings that much of the front is filled with Salafis, praise be to Allah, from all countries, especially from Saudi Arabia.
The Shaykh : Not independent, meaning?
The questioner : No, inside them, meaning. So he said: This is contrary to what they publish, that you are far from jihad and you do not know jihad, and so on. So this is good news and it came from the land of battle.
The questioner : Even Usama bin Laden and his group, meaning, his front is filled with young monotheists. May Allah support Islam and the Muslims.
The Shaykh : What did he say about the jihad there?
The questioner : By Allah, the news of the jihad, praise be to Allah, is good and brings glad tidings, but the matter is not free from disagreement and some errors.
The questioner : I think I heard or read that the disagreement started politically, meaning other than the sectarian and ethnic disagreements, it started politically. There is this Jalil who started saying that they must accept the Geneva Conference, or that there must be a truce, or something like that, so the disagreement is with the other leaders.
The Shaykh : May Allah protect them from the evil of division.
The questioner : The most dangerous thing is that they accepted the entry of, meaning, Shia members, Shia ministers, into this temporary government, and at the same time they excluded some, or did not include any of the Salafi mujahideen, such as Jamil al-Rahman and others. So this means they are prioritizing some of the Shia and delaying some of the people of the Sunnah.
The Shaykh : There is no doubt this is a grave error.
The questioner : In any case, praise be to Allah.
The questioner : One of our brothers, O Shaykh, from Kuwait went there a while ago and returned. The first place he went to wasThe Shaykh : Abdullah 'Azzam, who is well known there.The Shaykh : Abdullah 'Azzam warns against getting into disagreements with the mujahideen or the tribal leaders. He says, and others say,The Shaykh : Rabee' also went there, so he was warning them.The Shaykh : Abdullah 'Azzam said: We want this, we do not want that, we want this, we do not want that, we do not want... So this brother went to Abdullah 'Azzam and trained with them and with the Sayyaf group, and he has a Salafi orientation. Then he went to Jamil al-Rahman, and... al-Rahman is ostracized there. He and other brothers mentioned that he is ostracized. So if aid comes and it is sufficient, it is not sent to him. He wants to take from the market, but it is not sent to Jamil al-Rahman and others. So this is a shift from Sayyaf and Abdullah 'Azzam to Jamil al-Rahman. So he returned to them wanting the monthly salary they give him, but they refused to give it to him. He is telling me directly... they said: Now you are with Jamil al-Rahman and not with us, so we will not give you a salary. He said: These are aid funds for the mujahideen. They said: We have no involvement; you are with Jamil al-Rahman, so take your salary from Jamil al-Rahman.
The questioner : The problem with Jamil al-Rahman is that he does not have active fronts, and this is what weakened his position among them. If he had fronts, meaning, they say they excuse him by saying he does not have capabilities, but he expanded the fronts greatly and reduced the operations. So if he had few fronts and many operations inside, perhaps he would have established his presence on the Afghan scene more firmly.
The Shaykh : The situation means we are in the correct state for the group. It is not the case that these people are satisfied with the land they occupy or settle in, and that is it. And they say that they will implement the Shari'ah punishments, and I do not know, meaning, news.
The questioner : O Shaykh, this is the Nuristan region. Nuristan is the one that implements the punishments. Jamil al-Rahman has no involvement; his front is different from Nuristan.
The Shaykh : Are they not Afghans?
The questioner : They are Afghans. The Nuristan region has a man, I think his name is Muhammad Afsal, who is the one who applies the punishments. Abdullah 'Azzam causes a lot of confusion for him and for this state.
The Shaykh : And he, Abdullah 'Azzam, unfortunately, even though he has a Salafi orientation, he is overcome by the Ikhwan orientation, yes. Meaning, this partisanship is difficult for a person to give up. And this news that was issued, is it a correct report?
The questioner : It is one hundred percent correct. Yes, and this is from a trusted student of Muhammad ibn Salih al-'Uthaymeen, one of those close to him. A man we consider trustworthy, and Allah is his accountant, meaning, one of the trustworthy students of knowledge. They say more than that, meaning, that there is confusion regarding the callers to tawhid (the oneness of Allah) and the callers to the Sunnah. Severe confusion, meaning.
Al-Halabi : They say: We teach the mujahideen tawhid. There is no need... in five minutes we teach him all of tawhid.
The Shaykh : That means all Muslims are monotheists.
The questioner : .. The Shaykh : 'Abd al-Razzaq said: I teach them in a quarter of an hour. And there were students of Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen from Saudi Arabia who objected to him greatly with this statement, so he withdrew his words in that matter. He said: I did not intend what you are intending...
The questioner : Meaning, our Shaykh, those who go there are threatened: beware of the Sunnah, beware of "Ameen." We do not want "Ameen." "Ameen" causes fitnah (trial, discord or temptation). Moving the finger, raising the hands, meaning, everything that contradicts the Hanafi madhhab (school of jurisprudence). So the Salafi there becomes a Hanafi, meaning, either jihad or what? He gives up these sunnahs (recommended practices). It is difficult for a person to manage jihad and manage the Sunnah. So either he goes with Jamil al-Rahman, meaning, he is forced, and most of the Arabs who went there mean they stay in a state of waiting without entering battles, or he stays with them reluctantly and in disagreement, or he accommodates them in what they are doing.
The Shaykh : I heard that some Arabs from Saudi Arabia entered battles. One of them came to me and told me.
The questioner : They have an independent front, O our Shaykh. Their leader is a man named Usama bin Laden. He has an independent front in the jihad...
The Shaykh : This is a good man.
The questioner : One of our brothers from Zarqa, O our Shaykh, he is from the Muslim Brotherhood, but his madhhab is very good. He used to love us and sit with us. He went to Saudi Arabia and from there he set out for jihad in Afghanistan and is still there. And, by Allah's will, he engaged in battles. He is a young man, strong in body and very brave, by Allah's will. He engaged in very strange battles, and Allah saved him. Kilometers of a car were dragging him and he did not know, and Allah saved him after all this. So when some of the Saudis who were in the jihad there in Peshawar learned of his bravery, they took him to his grandfather and married him to his daughter. So he returned with him there, by Allah's will. And his men there are mujahideen; we consider them to be on the right path.
The Shaykh : How old is he, meaning?
The questioner : He does not exceed twenty-four, meaning, twenty-three or twenty-four.
The Shaykh : Does he have family here?
The questioner : He has family here. He invited his family to attend his wedding in Jeddah, so he went and his entire family went, yes.
The questioner : A final question, ...
The questioner : One of our Salafi brothers from the front came and said: I bring you glad tidings that much of the front is filled with Salafis, praise be to Allah, from all countries, especially from Saudi Arabia.
The Shaykh : Not independent, meaning?
The questioner : No, inside them, meaning. So he said: This is contrary to what they publish, that you are far from jihad and you do not know jihad, and so on. So this is good news and it came from the land of battle.
The questioner : Even Usama bin Laden and his group, meaning, his front is filled with young monotheists. May Allah support Islam and the Muslims.
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