What is the criterion for the prostration for forgetfulness?
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The Shaykh : The hadith: .
Al-Halabi : Yes, what is the criterion for this forgetfulness? Is it any forgetfulness in the prayer, even if, for example, one added something or omitted something, not just talking?
The Shaykh : Absolutely, absolutely. If it was forgetfulness, even if it was in a recommended practice.
Al-Halabi : May Allah reward you with good.
Wafi: Some scholars say that forgetfulness is only for making up for a deficiency, meaning, for example, if one left an obligatory act.
The Shaykh : I said to them, what? Did you not tell them, "Bring your proof"? The hadith is explicit in this. Making up for a deficiency is talk like that of politicians. The deficiency may be a deficiency of a pillar, or a deficiency of an obligatory act, or a deficiency of a voluntary act. So what is meant by this deficiency? If it is in its absolute sense, then it aligns with our hadith.
Wafi: The deficiency for which a Muslim sins by leaving it?
The Shaykh : Yes, bring your proof. And here the donkey stops.The Shaykh : At the obstacle.
Wafi: Yes, he stopped repeatedly.
Al-Halabi : Well, our Shaykh, the hadiths regarding the prostration for forgetfulness, which include prostrating before the closing salam and after the closing salam, how should they be understood?
The Shaykh : There is no difference between addition and omission. There is no difference between them. If he wishes, before the closing salam, and if he wishes, after the closing salam, in the case of addition or omission.
The questioner : Our Shaykh, it is reported from the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) that he used to recite al-Fatihah only in the two rak'ahs before standing up...
The Shaykh : What standing up?
The questioner : The two light rak'ahs. It is reported that he used to recite only al-Fatihah in them.
The Shaykh : You mean the two rak'ahs with which the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) would begin standing in night prayer?
The questioner : That is it.
The Shaykh : Where did you get that from?
The questioner : In the hadith of Ibn 'Abbas...
The Shaykh : It says in it that he did not recite anything but al-Fatihah?
The questioner : Yes, exactly.
The Shaykh : I do not know this. Does anyone among you remember this? We must review it. I do not memorize this matter, and this is the first time I am hearing it.
The questioner : If a person intends to make the qunut in the witr prayer but does not make it, does he prostrate for forgetfulness?
The Shaykh : How could he not? If it was not intentional but due to forgetfulness. The words of the Messenger: The matter about which you seek judgment has been decided.
The questioner : If he left it intentionally?
The Shaykh : You are saying he forgot? If it was intentional, you are asking? So the intentional one is forgetful?
If it was not obligatory, then he owes nothing.
For every forgetfulness, there are two prostrations
لكل سهو سجدتانAl-Halabi : Yes, what is the criterion for this forgetfulness? Is it any forgetfulness in the prayer, even if, for example, one added something or omitted something, not just talking?
The Shaykh : Absolutely, absolutely. If it was forgetfulness, even if it was in a recommended practice.
Al-Halabi : May Allah reward you with good.
Wafi: Some scholars say that forgetfulness is only for making up for a deficiency, meaning, for example, if one left an obligatory act.
The Shaykh : I said to them, what? Did you not tell them, "Bring your proof"? The hadith is explicit in this. Making up for a deficiency is talk like that of politicians. The deficiency may be a deficiency of a pillar, or a deficiency of an obligatory act, or a deficiency of a voluntary act. So what is meant by this deficiency? If it is in its absolute sense, then it aligns with our hadith.
Wafi: The deficiency for which a Muslim sins by leaving it?
The Shaykh : Yes, bring your proof. And here the donkey stops.The Shaykh : At the obstacle.
Wafi: Yes, he stopped repeatedly.
Al-Halabi : Well, our Shaykh, the hadiths regarding the prostration for forgetfulness, which include prostrating before the closing salam and after the closing salam, how should they be understood?
The Shaykh : There is no difference between addition and omission. There is no difference between them. If he wishes, before the closing salam, and if he wishes, after the closing salam, in the case of addition or omission.
The questioner : Our Shaykh, it is reported from the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) that he used to recite al-Fatihah only in the two rak'ahs before standing up...
The Shaykh : What standing up?
The questioner : The two light rak'ahs. It is reported that he used to recite only al-Fatihah in them.
The Shaykh : You mean the two rak'ahs with which the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) would begin standing in night prayer?
The questioner : That is it.
The Shaykh : Where did you get that from?
The questioner : In the hadith of Ibn 'Abbas...
The Shaykh : It says in it that he did not recite anything but al-Fatihah?
The questioner : Yes, exactly.
The Shaykh : I do not know this. Does anyone among you remember this? We must review it. I do not memorize this matter, and this is the first time I am hearing it.
The questioner : If a person intends to make the qunut in the witr prayer but does not make it, does he prostrate for forgetfulness?
The Shaykh : How could he not? If it was not intentional but due to forgetfulness. The words of the Messenger:
For every forgetfulness, there are two prostrations
لكل سهو سجدتانThe questioner : If he left it intentionally?
The Shaykh : You are saying he forgot? If it was intentional, you are asking? So the intentional one is forgetful?
If it was not obligatory, then he owes nothing.
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