Is there any evidence from the Book and the Sunnah that affirms or denies the Lord (Exalted and Majestic is He) touching His Throne?
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The questioner : Is there any evidence from the Book, the Sunnah, or the statements of the Companions that denies or affirms the Lord (Mighty and Majestic) touching His Throne?
The Shaykh : There is absolutely no evidence regarding this. In my opinion, affirming or denying such matters is a departure from the methodology of the righteous Salaf; because both affirmation and denial lead to prohibited consequences. As for affirmation, it may necessitate prohibited matters:
One of them is attributing to Allah (Mighty and Majestic) something that is not established in the Book or the Sunnah, and this is not permissible.
The other is that if we affirm or claim any of this, we open the door for the *ta'til* (denial of the divine attributes) and *ta'wil* (figurative interpretation) proponents regarding the texts of the Book and Sunnah concerning the attributes of the Lord (Blessed and Exalted is He). We open the path for them to accuse us of *tajsim* (ascribing a body to Allah); because they interpret these matters, which some of those before us may have claimed, according to their apparent meaning, which befits humans and does not befit Allah (Mighty and Majestic). Therefore, it is not permissible to affirm such matters.
Similarly, it is not permissible to deny them; because denying them may necessitate denying what came in the Book and the Sunnah. For example: that Allah (Mighty and Majestic) is not present in the created things, meaning: it is not as the *ta'til* proponents and those who claim the unity of existence say, that Allah (Mighty and Majestic) is in every place, and that Allah (Mighty and Majestic) exists in all of existence. The Sufis exaggerated in their declaration of this misguidance when one of their poets said in a poem I do not recall now: that the likeness of the Lord of the Worlds and His creations is like the likeness of water and ice. Can water be separated from ice when it is ice? The answer is: No.
Likewise, with them, the Lord of the Worlds—(Exalted is He above what the wrongdoers say, by a great elevation)—is present in the created things. The Salafi creed is that Allah (Mighty and Majestic) is free of need from the worlds, and He is not in need of the Throne, nor of sitting upon it, nor of being established in it. Some of the moderate scholars from the Maturidiyyah explicitly stated this. I say: the moderate ones; because the Maturidiyyah are like the Asha'irah in many matters that contradict the creed of the righteous Salaf. As for this group I am referring to, they affirmed the attribute of Allah’s rising above His Throne, without implying that He is in need of it, and they said:
And the Lord of the Throne is above the Throne, but *** without the description of being established in it or connected to it
Because describing the Lord of the Worlds with this description means that He is in need of the Throne, as we know from the hadith of 'Imran ibn Husayn, then He created the Throne and the heavens, as is explicitly stated in the Sunnah.
So, in short: there is nothing in the Book or the Sunnah that affirms what came in the question or denies it, so we do not affirm and we do not deny. Yes.
The Shaykh : There is absolutely no evidence regarding this. In my opinion, affirming or denying such matters is a departure from the methodology of the righteous Salaf; because both affirmation and denial lead to prohibited consequences. As for affirmation, it may necessitate prohibited matters:
One of them is attributing to Allah (Mighty and Majestic) something that is not established in the Book or the Sunnah, and this is not permissible.
The other is that if we affirm or claim any of this, we open the door for the *ta'til* (denial of the divine attributes) and *ta'wil* (figurative interpretation) proponents regarding the texts of the Book and Sunnah concerning the attributes of the Lord (Blessed and Exalted is He). We open the path for them to accuse us of *tajsim* (ascribing a body to Allah); because they interpret these matters, which some of those before us may have claimed, according to their apparent meaning, which befits humans and does not befit Allah (Mighty and Majestic). Therefore, it is not permissible to affirm such matters.
Similarly, it is not permissible to deny them; because denying them may necessitate denying what came in the Book and the Sunnah. For example: that Allah (Mighty and Majestic) is not present in the created things, meaning: it is not as the *ta'til* proponents and those who claim the unity of existence say, that Allah (Mighty and Majestic) is in every place, and that Allah (Mighty and Majestic) exists in all of existence. The Sufis exaggerated in their declaration of this misguidance when one of their poets said in a poem I do not recall now: that the likeness of the Lord of the Worlds and His creations is like the likeness of water and ice. Can water be separated from ice when it is ice? The answer is: No.
Likewise, with them, the Lord of the Worlds—(Exalted is He above what the wrongdoers say, by a great elevation)—is present in the created things. The Salafi creed is that Allah (Mighty and Majestic) is free of need from the worlds, and He is not in need of the Throne, nor of sitting upon it, nor of being established in it. Some of the moderate scholars from the Maturidiyyah explicitly stated this. I say: the moderate ones; because the Maturidiyyah are like the Asha'irah in many matters that contradict the creed of the righteous Salaf. As for this group I am referring to, they affirmed the attribute of Allah’s rising above His Throne, without implying that He is in need of it, and they said:
And the Lord of the Throne is above the Throne, but *** without the description of being established in it or connected to it
Because describing the Lord of the Worlds with this description means that He is in need of the Throne,
And Allah was, and there was nothing with Him
وكان الله ولا شيء معهSo, in short: there is nothing in the Book or the Sunnah that affirms what came in the question or denies it, so we do not affirm and we do not deny. Yes.
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