A discussion on the times of prayer.

The questioner : At that time, there were no clock times or such. We have clock times. It is established that, for example, the time for the Maghrib adhan is specific. But this mountain he saw, for instance, is the strangest thing; he has no clock. So if a clock exists, it is invalid if we see the sun has set...

The Shaykh : This is just the chatter of the others, meaning, this is the chatter of the others. My dear, what is the clock based on?

The questioner : It is based on the official times...

The Shaykh : And we are talking about unofficial times? We are talking about unofficial times?

The questioner : Official, but you said the mountain was high...

The Shaykh : I know what I said. Official times or not?

The questioner : Official.

The Shaykh : Okay, what did we say just now? We have a time here that the sun rises at such a time. How long, like a quarter of an hour, does the sun take to rise? What do I do? Do I rise at the clock time?

The questioner : No, I rise if I am in a high area...

The Shaykh : It is not you, it is me, me.

The questioner : Yes, if...

The Shaykh : Do not say "if." This is what annoys me about people's talk. I am telling you a reality, and I am on my land here. You tell me "if"? And what "if"? You talk about yourself, and you do not know what the story is. I am telling you, the time when the sun rose for me to see it was five minutes, ten minutes, a quarter of an hour. The sun had not risen. So do I pray according to the clock, which is the official time in your expression? Or do I pray according to the divine time?

The questioner : The divine time.

The Shaykh : Ah, if so, what is the value of this official time that you raised your finger to clarify...

The questioner : About Maghrib that...

The Shaykh: May Allah guide you.

Another questioner : And Abu Hamdi is with him.

The Shaykh : He is with him too. May Allah guide you.

Another questioner : There are countries where you do not see the sun for months.

The Shaykh : Look, look, move me from here. Allah has placed me in the best place. Where? The North Pole!

Another questioner : It is not the North.

The Shaykh : The South Pole!

The questioner : From the clouds, you do not see the time difference, the sky remains...

The Shaykh : May Allah guide you. If you had kept silent, Abu Hamdi, it would have been better.

The questioner : Okay, suppose he broke his fast according to these times, and flew in a plane, the plane went up...

The Shaykh : Let him vent his frustration. Because I know from Abu Hamdi's nature that he is not at ease unless he vents his frustration. What did you suppose?

The questioner : Suppose it is a very cloudy day and a person cannot observe the sun at all.

The Shaykh : Do you allow me?

The questioner: Go ahead.

The Shaykh : I say frankly, when a person wants to tell me about hypotheticals while he is living in realities, it immediately gives me a warning that I am invalidating. Listen to my advice. Even if the advice is annoying sometimes, do you understand me?
Every person who hears a research and a topic based on reality comes and moves us from this reality to hypotheticals, and immediately gives me a warning that he is invalidating. Why? Because he cannot handle the actual facts surrounding us until he is able to handle the hypotheticals!

The questioner : You were wrong, but still...

The Shaykh : O Shaykh, did you understand what I am saying now or not?!
I did not understand the apparent. Why are you moving us from reality to hypotheticals? Leave us now. Are you living in Europe?

Another questioner : In our country.

The Shaykh : In our country. Hey, hey, my dear, are we in winter or summer? I am talking about reality, reality. Are we in summer or winter?

The questioner : No problem. If we researched the winter topic, we would not pray in winter. It is not winter. If it is cloudy, meaning, I ask a question, not a hypothetical one.

The Shaykh : May Allah guide you, May Allah guide you... Why do you not complete this topic of yours on reality, and then it will be easier for you to understand it. Why?
The student : This reality that I understood from you, the abstract observation, as long as...

The Shaykh : Abstract from what?

The questioner : The sun, the ordinary abstract from other means.

The Shaykh : What means?

The questioner : Calculation.

The Shaykh : What calculation?

The questioner : The time of the sun's rising, on which the current calendar is entirely based.

The Shaykh : Did you believe in this calendar? Meaning, this calculation. Either you did not calculate for it, or you did calculate for it. If you did not calculate for it, you are with me in the talk. And if you did calculate for it, then research this point.
We tell you, when you calculated for this calculation, you are wrong. The proof is that we are placing you before reality. We are telling you that the adhan is called and the sun is still rising, and the adhan is called and the sun has been up for ten minutes. Meaning, you are being arrogant to this degree, saying this is lying with this, with this. No.
So why do you not research this point so that later we see what is the value of your calculation for the calculation? What is the value of your establishment of this calculation? Even though it contradicts what reality.
You come and impose on us that the world is winter and there is no sun. My brother, the answer to this is easy. What do you do when the world is winter and you do not have a calendar and you do not have a clock? What do you do, what do you do?
No, there is no sun, the world is cloudy, and you do not have a clock and you do not have a qibla. What do you do? Do you not pray? You are wrong.
Therefore, I am telling you from fifty years of experience, every person who stands before the actual cosmic facts by imposing hypotheticals that he is not in reality at least in this moment. Why does he not free himself from the hypotheticals he wants to handle? He may hit the mark and he may miss, and he is connected with these cosmic facts that exist now. Why?
Because he is invalidating. Because he wants to be stubborn about his old misguidance, his custom, the traditions of his fathers and grandfathers, for whatever reason. All these reasons are contrary to the Shari'ah. Why are you leaving reality? Either you tell me, O Shaykh, you are wrong, all these hadiths and the calendar are correct. Or you tell me the calendar is not correct and what you are seeing is the correct one. But you are not with these and not with those, and you want to drag us into a labyrinth.

Another questioner : According to the latitude, how much does the sun travel in this distance? Based on the lines of latitude, they calculate the setting, for example. Because it is a hypothetical. If we asked Abu Ahmad, you have lived in life, did you see a day when the Maghrib adhan was called in Aleppo and the sun was rising?
Abu Ahmad: No.

Another questioner : The idea you presented, no one... but the adhan was not called before the sun as a precaution...

The Shaykh : ... Ask me what you asked him? I do not deserve that you ask us a question. Yes, my lord, did you see it? What did you benefit from your question to him and what did you benefit from my question?

The questioner : We determine this incident is a mistake by the mu'adhdhin or following a time.

The Shaykh : Give me the answer to my question. May Allah guide you. We are telling you, we heard the radio. What is the mistake by the mu'adhdhin? The radio that calls the adhan every day at the calendar time, a mistake occurs in it.

The questioner : Mistakes occur in it. We did not say this is always the original.

The Shaykh : Look, on the hypotheticals, Abu Hamdi, May Allah guide you. I am asking you a question. Look, now I want to speak, do you want to speak?
Listen, May Allah guide you. I have tested you. I ask you a question, not once do you answer it. Now I asked you, what did you benefit from your question to him? Your life, Abu Ahmad, in Aleppo, did you see the adhan being called and the sun rising?! No, he gave you the answer well.
I told you, I am very humble, I do not deserve to be asked. I was asked... Listen, May Allah guide you. I was asked and there is nothing to ask me, because I told you before you asked me. Nevertheless, I answered you. I told you I saw it and others saw it. The question was: What did you benefit from your question to him and then your question to me?
His question was that he did not see it. My question was that I saw it. What did you benefit? You do not give an answer!
The student : The phenomenon you witnessed, did it repeat or was it a coincidence?

The Shaykh : Is this a question? I am not answering the question.

The questioner : I benefited to limit the phenomenon. Is this phenomenon that you transmitted, was it anomalous or is it general and permanent, occurring in the timing?

The Shaykh : If it were someone else, if it were someone else, he would say this. What do you think of me? When this happened, I was like a dazed Droush. You are also putting me in a difficult position with these issues, and I am not proud to be from her town. Also, this is not new; I am telling you what I have seen twice: once the adhan was called exactly at sunset, and once the adhan was called before the sun had set. And here I see the sun rise from here after a quarter of an hour. What are you going to tell me, is it repeated or not? Do you think this man Droush is not smart enough to understand...
Therefore, you are coming now at the end of time to conduct an investigation, and by Allah, this is a calamity of the age. That is why I told you, if it were someone else. If it were someone else...
Say it is a new idea, and I heard this new idea that it is not permissible for one to fast on Saturday except for what Allah has made obligatory upon him. I heard this new idea...
O man, we always say, when we were with you and continuing with this saying: Knowledge does not accept stagnation. Knowledge does not accept stagnation; there is always progress, whether the stagnant ones will it or not. So I have been here for ten years, not as you know me, not better than what you know me, see how it is?

The questioner : May Allah increase you.

The Shaykh : Better, better, and you think you are hearing this new thing from me, why? Because I was living, as you were living, in a place where I did not see the sunrise or the sunset, so our Lord placed me here for what?
To increase my knowledge, so I am speaking from insight. He placed me here, I am telling you, in this place, meaning in my house, then He placed me here in Jordan for what? Look, in Jordan here there is a mountain and there is a higher mountain, and here a lower mountain and there a valley, yet Allah either takes revenge on them or guides them to the right path. If they had unified the country in, I mean, coastal land, excuse me, if they had unified the adhan in a country with flat land, it has a merit in that the time there does not differ, but it has no merit in terms of abolishing this Islamic ritual as we mentioned.
But look how strong Satan is over man. He came and whispered to one of the ignorant in a country like this country, where you do not take a step without seeing yourself going down, you do not take a step without seeing yourself going up. Unifying the adhan, the adhan differs from here to there, from there to the middle of the town, how did you unify the adhan?
So our Lord, in His wisdom, moved me from Damascus to this country and chose for me this land on which I built this house so that I would see the sunrise and sunset with my own eyes, and I do not rely on the calendar or on anyone who defends the calendar, even if all the astronomers of the world gathered, because the astronomers do not observe the legal times, my brother, they observe the natural time. And we told you, it seems to me that if they assumed this entire Islamic land was on the coast of the sea, they took the level of the sea coast and timed it, that would be the timing.

Another questioner : Abu Hamdi repeats the words in his own voice.

Another questioner : We are now, apart from the guarantees, if a person went to Kuwait or any place where there are guarantees, is it permissible for the guarantor to take a value for them, or say it is just the rent of the office or not the rent of the office, is this permissible or not?

The Shaykh : Rent of the office! What office?

The questioner : The rent of his office which he opened for contracts, where he takes many contracts, is it permissible for us to pay the rent of his office?

The Shaykh : The contract, my brother, if it does not cost the intermediary anything, then it is not permissible for him to take anything. But if it costs him initially trips, I am answering like this and like this so that you say in the end, is it permissible or not permissible? Does it cost him fees, does it cost him trips, does it cost him this initially, a cost, in the end, in the final result, responsibility, accountability, costs that are held against him because of this guarantee...