A Return to the Beginning, on Going Out for Da'wah and Conveying What One Has Learned
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The Shaykh : The important thing is that a Muslim should understand the Shari'ah within the limits of what came in the Book and the Sunnah.
In summary, we distinguish between going out for da'wah and a Muslim conveying to his Muslim brother what he has learned of knowledge. Now, please go ahead.
The questioner : Our objective, if Allah wills, is to benefit from knowledge.The Shaykh : If Allah wills, this is our objective, even if it is just one issue.
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you with good.
The questioner : You mentioned the two hadiths earlier, and I had these two hadiths in mind to mention them as evidence for what I have. So I say: you mentioned that the environment must be a sound environment for this repentant person. But you know now there is an obstacle. And we said at the beginning that there is no sound environment; there is no sound environment. So we said: this man prays and sits with us for an hour or two, sitting in a sound environment in the House of Allah the Exalted, or in the home of one of the people who adhere to the methodology of the people of the Sunnah and the community, for an hour or two. After that, he wants to go to his home, and the people of evil seize him. So I say: you mentioned the good companion. Is this man, this newly repentant person, going with people who are companions like him, like the good companion? And there was more than one person, and he sat with them in a place better than this place, like the village, like the villages of the desert. There are no trials like the trials of women in the urban cities. The villages are free from these trials, except that the people there are Bedouins, as Allah the Exalted said: "I advise you to fear Allah":[At-Tawbah 9:97] But our aim is not that the trials around this person, the trials of women and the trials of the adornment of this world, do not exist in these villages. In addition to that, this person is in the House of Allah the Exalted, surrounded by those who remember Allah the Exalted, like the good companion, and he does not see the trials before his eyes, meaning he remains in the remembrance of Allah.
The Shaykh : All the talk you are speaking is my talk, but what does this have to do with going out, my brother? May Allah reward you. The regulated, organized thing we spoke about earlier. So now, what does this talk have to do with going to America and Europe?
The questioner : I do not mean going to America. I mean going to these villages.
The Shaykh : My brother, we are talking about an established da'wah now. What do you mean? I am telling you what you are speaking about. Now, this is our talk, but we are talking about the going out called "going out in the path of Allah." Do you think we deny the sound environment? We are affirming to you the sound environment and its effect, and the bad environment and its effect. We are mentioning these things to you. So now you are hovering around what we have. We are hovering around what others have, which they call "going out in the path of Allah."
So now I gave you an example. Do you not know that the group goes to Europe? Tell me: Yes.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay, does this have to do with your talk? Say: No, because it is not a sound environment.
The questioner : It is not a sound environment. Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay, so I oppose this going out and support this staying. So now you are saying the city you are in now, here is the obstacle. I am not telling you to gather a group of righteous people around you and take some of those whom Allah has guided and let them walk with a group of righteous people. Do I deny this? I call for this, my brother. You are now making a very grave error when you repeat in the ears of people and in my ears things by which we testify to Allah and draw near to Allah, and you are like it was said long ago: "Like a carrier of dates to Hajar." My brother, Hajar is the source of dates there. So we are saying in our language: this is our merchandise, it was returned to us. What are you talking about? Our topic is the known going out, called "going out in the path of Allah," three days, forty days, etc. Leave your family, leave your work, do not ask about anything. And who is the one who will go out? It is the one you are talking about who needs the sound environment. Perhaps today he heard a word from one of our brothers, these Tablighi people, and Allah opened his heart to faith, he believed and started praying. Immediately they will take him and drag him with them. Where? To the desert, to the village, perhaps to India, to Sindh, etc. This is not suitable. This is not our topic. What you are talking about is not our topic. Our topic is this going out, which you know well and I do not need to explain it to you. As for finding a sound environment for people who have repented and turned to Allah the Exalted.
Yes, this is what we want for people, all people. May Allah reward you. The points you raised are not a topic of research first, nor are they a topic of disagreement. The topic of disagreement is this organized, regulated going out with things that are not from the Sunnah. I mentioned earlier: why do they not open their lessons and their speech with the Khutbat al-Hajah (Sermon of Necessity)? Why? Tell me: either they know the Sunnah and yet they oppose it, or they do not know the Sunnah and therefore they do not act upon it. The sweetest thing is bitter. What do we want to say?
The questioner : You, may Allah reward you with good, always, as you have accustomed us in your books and references that you write, you always begin with the Khutbat al-Hajah.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : But if we look at the books of Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah, or Ibn al-Qayyim al-Jawziyyah, or the last of the scholars, or al-Nawawi, you will find that they do not mention this Khutbat al-Hajah at all, even though we take the action of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) and we do not take their action. But they do not mention it at all. Why did they not mention the Khutbat al-Hajah in the introduction of their books?
The Shaykh : You are now contradictory and refuted. You are contradictory and refuted. I do not understand your speech, even though there is a great refutation of it if you are correct, and I do not say you are truthful because you are truthful. If you are correct that Ibn Taymiyyah and Ibn al-Qayyim al-Jawziyyah do not mention this sermon, but the Messenger mentioned it, and you are with the Messenger, what is the benefit of your saying that Ibn Taymiyyah does not do it? Is it to find an excuse for your group?
The questioner : No... O people.
The Shaykh : Allow me, allow me. So for what? Why do you mention it?
The questioner : ... Just for knowledge, meaning just for knowledge, nothing else.
The Shaykh : My brother, I know this and I will answer you now.
From Ibn Taymiyyah we took the Sunnah. Ibn Taymiyyah is the one who revived this Sunnah. But this is not the obligatory thing in every book. In every book, and praise be to Allah for my knowledge of the ignorance of Muslims today of this Sunnah, I am more consistent with it than Ibn Taymiyyah. And from him I benefited with this Sunnah from some of his books. But the authentic hadith in Muslim is mentioned with this. So now when you say "Yes, may Allah reward you with good," you act upon the Sunnah, but Ibn Taymiyyah was... what is behind this speech? If one were to assume ill, you want to hint at Ibn Taymiyyah and criticize him that he is opposed to the Sunnah. You do not want this, right? So what do you want? For knowledge. What is the benefit behind that?
The questioner : It will be an excuse for them, like an excuse.
In summary, we distinguish between going out for da'wah and a Muslim conveying to his Muslim brother what he has learned of knowledge. Now, please go ahead.
The questioner : Our objective, if Allah wills, is to benefit from knowledge.The Shaykh : If Allah wills, this is our objective, even if it is just one issue.
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you with good.
The questioner : You mentioned the two hadiths earlier, and I had these two hadiths in mind to mention them as evidence for what I have. So I say: you mentioned that the environment must be a sound environment for this repentant person. But you know now there is an obstacle. And we said at the beginning that there is no sound environment; there is no sound environment. So we said: this man prays and sits with us for an hour or two, sitting in a sound environment in the House of Allah the Exalted, or in the home of one of the people who adhere to the methodology of the people of the Sunnah and the community, for an hour or two. After that, he wants to go to his home, and the people of evil seize him. So I say: you mentioned the good companion. Is this man, this newly repentant person, going with people who are companions like him, like the good companion? And there was more than one person, and he sat with them in a place better than this place, like the village, like the villages of the desert. There are no trials like the trials of women in the urban cities. The villages are free from these trials, except that the people there are Bedouins, as Allah the Exalted said: "I advise you to fear Allah":
The bedouins are stronger in disbelief and hypocrisy
الأعراب أشد كفرا ونفاقاThe Shaykh : All the talk you are speaking is my talk, but what does this have to do with going out, my brother? May Allah reward you. The regulated, organized thing we spoke about earlier. So now, what does this talk have to do with going to America and Europe?
The questioner : I do not mean going to America. I mean going to these villages.
The Shaykh : My brother, we are talking about an established da'wah now. What do you mean? I am telling you what you are speaking about. Now, this is our talk, but we are talking about the going out called "going out in the path of Allah." Do you think we deny the sound environment? We are affirming to you the sound environment and its effect, and the bad environment and its effect. We are mentioning these things to you. So now you are hovering around what we have. We are hovering around what others have, which they call "going out in the path of Allah."
So now I gave you an example. Do you not know that the group goes to Europe? Tell me: Yes.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay, does this have to do with your talk? Say: No, because it is not a sound environment.
The questioner : It is not a sound environment. Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay, so I oppose this going out and support this staying. So now you are saying the city you are in now, here is the obstacle. I am not telling you to gather a group of righteous people around you and take some of those whom Allah has guided and let them walk with a group of righteous people. Do I deny this? I call for this, my brother. You are now making a very grave error when you repeat in the ears of people and in my ears things by which we testify to Allah and draw near to Allah, and you are like it was said long ago: "Like a carrier of dates to Hajar." My brother, Hajar is the source of dates there. So we are saying in our language: this is our merchandise, it was returned to us. What are you talking about? Our topic is the known going out, called "going out in the path of Allah," three days, forty days, etc. Leave your family, leave your work, do not ask about anything. And who is the one who will go out? It is the one you are talking about who needs the sound environment. Perhaps today he heard a word from one of our brothers, these Tablighi people, and Allah opened his heart to faith, he believed and started praying. Immediately they will take him and drag him with them. Where? To the desert, to the village, perhaps to India, to Sindh, etc. This is not suitable. This is not our topic. What you are talking about is not our topic. Our topic is this going out, which you know well and I do not need to explain it to you. As for finding a sound environment for people who have repented and turned to Allah the Exalted.
Yes, this is what we want for people, all people. May Allah reward you. The points you raised are not a topic of research first, nor are they a topic of disagreement. The topic of disagreement is this organized, regulated going out with things that are not from the Sunnah. I mentioned earlier: why do they not open their lessons and their speech with the Khutbat al-Hajah (Sermon of Necessity)? Why? Tell me: either they know the Sunnah and yet they oppose it, or they do not know the Sunnah and therefore they do not act upon it. The sweetest thing is bitter. What do we want to say?
The questioner : You, may Allah reward you with good, always, as you have accustomed us in your books and references that you write, you always begin with the Khutbat al-Hajah.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : But if we look at the books of Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah, or Ibn al-Qayyim al-Jawziyyah, or the last of the scholars, or al-Nawawi, you will find that they do not mention this Khutbat al-Hajah at all, even though we take the action of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) and we do not take their action. But they do not mention it at all. Why did they not mention the Khutbat al-Hajah in the introduction of their books?
The Shaykh : You are now contradictory and refuted. You are contradictory and refuted. I do not understand your speech, even though there is a great refutation of it if you are correct, and I do not say you are truthful because you are truthful. If you are correct that Ibn Taymiyyah and Ibn al-Qayyim al-Jawziyyah do not mention this sermon, but the Messenger mentioned it, and you are with the Messenger, what is the benefit of your saying that Ibn Taymiyyah does not do it? Is it to find an excuse for your group?
The questioner : No... O people.
The Shaykh : Allow me, allow me. So for what? Why do you mention it?
The questioner : ... Just for knowledge, meaning just for knowledge, nothing else.
The Shaykh : My brother, I know this and I will answer you now.
From Ibn Taymiyyah we took the Sunnah. Ibn Taymiyyah is the one who revived this Sunnah. But this is not the obligatory thing in every book. In every book, and praise be to Allah for my knowledge of the ignorance of Muslims today of this Sunnah, I am more consistent with it than Ibn Taymiyyah. And from him I benefited with this Sunnah from some of his books. But the authentic hadith in Muslim is mentioned with this. So now when you say "Yes, may Allah reward you with good," you act upon the Sunnah, but Ibn Taymiyyah was... what is behind this speech? If one were to assume ill, you want to hint at Ibn Taymiyyah and criticize him that he is opposed to the Sunnah. You do not want this, right? So what do you want? For knowledge. What is the benefit behind that?
The questioner : It will be an excuse for them, like an excuse.
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