If the imam lowers his hands during the prayer, should the ma'mum lower his hands? And what is the meaning of the hadith: "The imam is appointed to be followed, so do not differ with him"?
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The questioner : My Shaykh, may Allah reward you with good for this kind reminder.
The Shaykh : And may Allah protect you, if Allah wills.
The questioner : It seems that our brothers in Saudi Arabia, or in the Gulf in general, have not paid attention to the hadith of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him)Sahih al-Bukhari 1236 Based on our observation of our brothers when praying with them, if the imam lowers his hand or his hands.
The Shaykh : They do not follow him.
The questioner : They do not follow him; rather, they adopt the jurisprudence that says to raise the hands at...
The Shaykh : Take it, Abu Ahmad, we don't want to give it to Abu Umar, because later we will apply the fabricated hadith from you to me.
The questioner : That is, they pray their prayer which...
The Shaykh : They are accustomed to it.
The questioner : They have become accustomed to it, so perhaps you could also point out this matter. May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : What is this?
Abu Layla : All of us, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh : All of us, what Allah willed, and indeed it was, but it needs care, it needs care.
The questioner : My Shaykh, also in the same hadith.
The Shaykh : But this one won't open; it fills the air.
The questioner : It fills the air, yes, my Shaykh, this is at night, at night it increases.
The Shaykh : But it did not open, apparently[Al-Mu'minun 23:14]
The questioner : Glory be to Allah, my Shaykh, to complete the issue, perhaps you could clarify for us the hadith that one follows in every movement and stillness. This is the point here. We mean our brothers who do not follow the imam in every movement. The movements they have become accustomed to, they think they have the right to perform them in the manner they are accustomed to.
The Shaykh : I agree with what you mentioned, except for the last phrase where you said "they think." I do not think they think, but rather they do not know. Which is lighter for you: to say "you think" or "you do not know"?
Another questioner : Or do we have other knowledge, my Shaykh?
The Shaykh : No, no, never mind, don't limit it. Let's stick to one policy now. I am asking you, which is more gentle?
Another questioner : We think this hadith is authentic, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Think?
Another questioner : No, with knowledge that this is the truth, according to the evidence we have and our practice, we did not do what we did, yes...
The questioner : ... it is the correct one, but there is a psychological aspect... so it is better to leave it, my Shaykh, there is no need for it.
The Shaykh: As you wish.
Another questioner : My Shaykh, the grasping (of the hands) is not denied...
The Shaykh : No, no, let me clarify what I understood. "They think" is not about a specific issue or the grasping, but rather in general. I believe you do not know that it is obligatory for the follower to follow the imam in matters of independent legal reasoning, not matters of disagreement, but rather you believe that you should maintain your own practice, even if the imam holds a view contrary to the Sunnah, is that not so? Therefore, my wording is more precise than his. Is it clear to you now?
Another questioner: It is clear.
The Shaykh : May Allah bless you, do not think ill of us.
Another questioner : Okay, what is your opinion of his statement, my Shaykh?
The Shaykh : Is it a mistake, or why did I change his statement to my statement?
Another questioner : Okay, are we right, my Shaykh?
The Shaykh : If you were right, I would not have said "they do not know." So what do you say about his statement (peace and blessings be upon him)Sahih al-Bukhari 1236 to the end of the hadith, which is known to you? Is this not a command from the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) for the follower to follow his imam?
Another questioner : Yes, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Okay, so do you do that in everything the imam does, even if he is the imam of the Muslims?
Another questioner : Except for the last one, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh : What Allah willed, there is no power except with Allah. What do you have?
The Shaykh : And may Allah protect you, if Allah wills.
The questioner : It seems that our brothers in Saudi Arabia, or in the Gulf in general, have not paid attention to the hadith of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him)
The Imam is to be followed
إنما جعل الإمام ليؤتم بهThe Shaykh : They do not follow him.
The questioner : They do not follow him; rather, they adopt the jurisprudence that says to raise the hands at...
The Shaykh : Take it, Abu Ahmad, we don't want to give it to Abu Umar, because later we will apply the fabricated hadith from you to me.
The questioner : That is, they pray their prayer which...
The Shaykh : They are accustomed to it.
The questioner : They have become accustomed to it, so perhaps you could also point out this matter. May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : What is this?
Abu Layla : All of us, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh : All of us, what Allah willed, and indeed it was, but it needs care, it needs care.
The questioner : My Shaykh, also in the same hadith.
The Shaykh : But this one won't open; it fills the air.
The questioner : It fills the air, yes, my Shaykh, this is at night, at night it increases.
The Shaykh : But it did not open, apparently
So blessed is Allah, the best of creators.
تبارك الله أحسن الخالقينThe questioner : Glory be to Allah, my Shaykh, to complete the issue, perhaps you could clarify for us the hadith
The imam is appointed to be followed
إنما جعل الإمام لؤتم بهThe Shaykh : I agree with what you mentioned, except for the last phrase where you said "they think." I do not think they think, but rather they do not know. Which is lighter for you: to say "you think" or "you do not know"?
Another questioner : Or do we have other knowledge, my Shaykh?
The Shaykh : No, no, never mind, don't limit it. Let's stick to one policy now. I am asking you, which is more gentle?
Another questioner : We think this hadith is authentic, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Think?
Another questioner : No, with knowledge that this is the truth, according to the evidence we have and our practice, we did not do what we did, yes...
The questioner : ... it is the correct one, but there is a psychological aspect... so it is better to leave it, my Shaykh, there is no need for it.
The Shaykh: As you wish.
Another questioner : My Shaykh, the grasping (of the hands) is not denied...
The Shaykh : No, no, let me clarify what I understood. "They think" is not about a specific issue or the grasping, but rather in general. I believe you do not know that it is obligatory for the follower to follow the imam in matters of independent legal reasoning, not matters of disagreement, but rather you believe that you should maintain your own practice, even if the imam holds a view contrary to the Sunnah, is that not so? Therefore, my wording is more precise than his. Is it clear to you now?
Another questioner: It is clear.
The Shaykh : May Allah bless you, do not think ill of us.
Another questioner : Okay, what is your opinion of his statement, my Shaykh?
The Shaykh : Is it a mistake, or why did I change his statement to my statement?
Another questioner : Okay, are we right, my Shaykh?
The Shaykh : If you were right, I would not have said "they do not know." So what do you say about his statement (peace and blessings be upon him)
The Imam is to be followed
إنما جعل الإمام ليؤتم بهAnother questioner : Yes, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Okay, so do you do that in everything the imam does, even if he is the imam of the Muslims?
Another questioner : Except for the last one, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh : What Allah willed, there is no power except with Allah. What do you have?
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