You mentioned that if the causes for the full ritual bath multiply, one bathes according to their number. Does this apply to the causes for the ablution if they multiply?

The questioner : You mentioned that if the causes for the full ritual bath multiply, one bathes according to their number. Does this apply to the causes for the ablution if they multiply?

The Shaykh : If the causes for the ablution multiply, clarify this second branch for me with an example?

The questioner : The causes for the ablution, like if someone breaks his state of purity by passing wind or urinating, and he eats camel meat, so the causes multiply. Does he perform the ablution twice based on the causes for the full ritual bath?

The Shaykh : Meaning, he is in a state of ritual impurity?

The questioner : Meaning, he ate camel meat and then broke his state of purity?

The Shaykh : No problem, meaning he is in a state of ritual impurity.

The questioner : How, our Shaykh, or how is that?

The Shaykh : A strange question. Meaning, a person now relieved himself and went out, then sat down to eat and ate camel meat, like this?

The questioner : Or he ate camel meat and then relieved himself.

The Shaykh : No problem, if the picture is not clear?

The questioner : No. I mean, when you mentioned the causes for the full ritual bath...

The Shaykh : No problem, I understood that difference. This is related to the causes for the ablution.

The questioner : The causes for the ablution, a man ate camel meat?

The Shaykh : His ablution was invalidated, okay. He was in a state of purity, meaning your words imply he was in a state of purity, then he ate camel meat and his ablution was invalidated. Good, and what after that?

The questioner : Then he broke his state of purity.

The Shaykh : Good, this is what I find strange.

The questioner : We mean, the multiplication of the causes. Why did we make it in the full ritual bath multiply according to the number of causes?
Al-Halabi : Our Shaykh, he raised the ablution as a problem regarding the full ritual bath.

The Shaykh : I understand; but the picture of his case draws attention. I fear that we have not yet understood the professor's intention regarding the causes for the ablution. Is it, as I understood just now, that a man was in a state of purity, then he relieved himself and his ablution was invalidated, and on top of that he ate camel meat?

The questioner : His ablution was invalidated a second time.

The Shaykh : No, his ablution was not invalidated. If I find the question strange, it is completely so.

The questioner : No, meaning your viewpoint regarding the issue of the full ritual bath, why did we order him according to the number of causes regarding the full ritual bath that he bathes according to their number?

The Shaykh : Give an example so we can see the difference?

The questioner : A man was a disbeliever, then he embraced Islam, then he had major ritual impurity. This is a cause for the full ritual bath.

The Shaykh : He embraced Islam and then had major ritual impurity. What is said about this?

The questioner : Does he perform two full ritual baths or one full ritual bath?

The Shaykh : When he embraced Islam, did he perform the full ritual bath or not?

The questioner : He did not perform the full ritual bath.

The Shaykh : It is obligatory for him to perform the full ritual bath.

The questioner : He embraced Islam and then had major ritual impurity.

The Shaykh : Good, if you say he embraced Islam while in a state of major ritual impurity?

The questioner : Or like this, this is better for you.
Al-Halabi : This is better for him, our Shaykh.

The Shaykh : This is a case that returns to the one who relieved himself and then ate camel meat, but it is not the first picture. When a disbeliever embraces Islam, the Shari'ah obligates him to perform the full ritual bath. So he performed it, then he had major ritual impurity, and here a requirement was found that obligates him to perform the full ritual bath a second time. The picture I resorted to last was a disbeliever, and disbelievers do not have something called performing the full ritual bath for major ritual impurity, so in his state of being a disbeliever, he is also in a state of major ritual impurity. So Islam ordered him to perform the full ritual bath, but after he performed it, meaning after he embraced Islam and performed it, something happened to him that obligates the full ritual bath a second time, which is nocturnal emission, as I said. This is a different issue from the issue of a man who relieved himself and then ate camel meat and performed the ablution. It is done, because he is in a state of ritual impurity. No matter what he does, meaning a man urinated, then defecated, then ate, all of this occurred before he performed the ablution, so performing the ablution once suffices for these things. But for example, on Friday he is in a state of major ritual impurity and he must perform the full ritual bath. Does one full ritual bath suffice for him, or is it necessary to perform two full ritual baths: the full ritual bath for major ritual impurity and the full ritual bath for Friday? Whoever holds that the full ritual bath for Friday is a recommended practice is certainly satisfied with one full ritual bath. But whoever holds that the full ritual bath for Friday is, according to the apparent meaning of his peace and blessings be upon him's saying: , says: An obligatory act does not stand in place of an obligatory act, nor does an obligatory act suffice for an obligatory act. So he must perform two full ritual baths here. But the examples you mention are not like this, whether the disbeliever who embraced Islam or the Muslim who broke his state of purity and then ate camel meat. So he performs the ablution once, because in each of these states he is in a state of ritual impurity, so he purified himself and the matter is finished. Perhaps the issue has become clear?

The questioner: Yes.

The Shaykh : If Allah wills.