The answer to the one who weakened the hadith: (Islam will be worn away as the pattern of a garment is worn away)

The Shaykh : For example, do you know the hadith of Hudhayfah that we use as evidence regarding prayer, that the one who abandons prayer, and that the testimony that there is no god but Allah...
Al-Halabi : .

The Shaykh : Yes, exactly, this is the one who weakened it.
Al-Halabi : The one who weakened it.

The Shaykh : Well, by whom was it weakened? By Abu Mu'awiyah, Muhammad ibn Khalid al-Darrir. And take note, so-and-so said this about him, and so-and-so said that about him, and none of these statements contain a criticism of the man except that he was a Murji'i. Here, the man is acting as an imam and a mujtahid in the narration of an innovator.
Al-Halabi : And he prolonged it.

The Shaykh : Ah, of course, he has no choice but to admit that there is disagreement in the issue. He says that he chooses not to use the narration of an innovator as evidence, if what? If his narration supports his innovation. And this hadith supports the doctrine of the Murji'ah. Where is the support for the doctrine of the Murji'ah in the hadith? It is clear that there is nothing in it that he claims and asserts. So these people are not scholars, do you see how? It is permissible, for example, to open up on the science of hadith and attack it in one go.
Al-Halabi : And what are the rules...

The Shaykh : There are no rules in hadith, but they have no knowledge in the jurisprudential and creedal aspects. I mean, when he says this hadith supports the doctrine of the Murji'ah, did he show where the support for the doctrine of the Murji'ah is in this hadith? And perhaps you remember that Abu Mu'awiyah did not narrate this hadith alone; he may have been followed in that...
Al-Halabi : The hadith is in al-Hakim, and Ibn Majah, our Shaykh, the hadith...

The Shaykh : Yes, but in both sources it is present via the route of Abu Mu'awiyah, but our reliance, I think, is on al-Busayri. He mentioned from a source, I don't know if it was Ibn Mani' or someone else, and I do not remember now, that he narrated it from a route other than that of Ibn Mu'awiyah...
Al-Halabi : Very good, and did he not dwell on this?

The Shaykh : Never, never.
Al-Halabi : And Ibn Uthaymeen, our Shaykh, graded the hadith as hasan, but with a different defect, that the word "prayer" did not appear in the narration of al-Hakim, it appeared in the narration of Ibn Majah, or the reverse, I do not remember exactly now.

The Shaykh : Strange.
Al-Halabi : But this is proof that the word "prayer" did not appear, so it is not used as evidence for declaring the one who abandons prayer a disbeliever.

The Shaykh : Allah is the Helper. Now, all the shaykhs of Najd are attached to the hadith, they have no background, as it is said, they have no knowledge. They were forced now to keep up with the times and started speaking about things they have no knowledge of.
Al-Halabi : This is correct. Our Shaykh, al-Albani, has a book of his as well, titled something like "Weakening the Hadith and Refuting the Distinction of the Scholar al-Albani in its Authentication." Of course, as you mentioned, our Shaykh, the hadith, he speaks about it in three pages, while he wrote one hundred and fifty pages on it, typewriter, and so-and-so and so-and-so, and I don't know what, and analogies of corroborating narrations to this, meaning things that are truly an amazing lengthening, but it has an introductionThe Shaykh : by Maqbul, and a wordThe Shaykh : by Maqbul surprised me when he said this is a good thesis in following up on such and such, and we should note here that here, if we respond to our beloved Shaykh in this eraThe Shaykh : al-Albani, this does not mean diminishing his status, nor does it mean this or that, but the opposite. This is from the strength of the methodology of the people of the Sunnah that some of them respond to others with broad-mindedness and so on. I mean, the speech was beautiful and coincided with the speech you recorded about him as well, on the tapeThe Shaykh : of 'Abd al-Rahman, that when we respond to one another, this is from the solidity of our methodology and our call, that it can bear such things. So it was a good and delicate word, and he said, how do we say our opinion aboutThe Shaykh : Nasir, and how so and how so? But this is knowledge, and knowledge is a trust, meaning the speech of a man with great etiquette and good.The Shaykh : Maqbul...

The Shaykh : Without a doubt, he mentions this as well in the other thesis that contains a critique of the hadith of asceticism, do you know it?
Al-Halabi : Asceticism, yes, I know it, "Exerting Effort in Weakening My Hadith of Asceticism"...

The Shaykh : He also mentions this same speech in the introduction. May Allah make us among those who cooperate in good...
Al-Halabi : We ask Allah for that.