A discussion between Shaykh al-Albani and al-Halabi regarding the attribution of the phrase "and there is no difference in acting upon a hadith in rulings or in virtues, for all of it is Shari'ah"
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al-Halabi: Peace be upon you
The Shaykh : And upon you peace and the mercy of Allah
al-Halabi: Here, Shaykh, I am saying "and there is no difference in acting upon a hadith in rulings or in virtues, for all of it is Shari'ah"
The Shaykh : Okay, what edition do you have?
al-Halabi: I have the edition from al-Maktabah al-Salim al-Hadithah
The Shaykh : It is the same one I have; take the second edition
al-Halabi: The second edition
The Shaykh : Ah
al-Halabi: Yes, just a moment, I haven't found it yet, Shaykh, but I remembered something
The Shaykh : Please go ahead.
al-Halabi: That the second edition, I can say ninety-nine percent, is taken from the first edition, which is this one in our hands
The Shaykh : As for this one, it is not the first edition
al-Halabi: No, I mean, this is not the first edition, because the brother who edited it is an Egyptian brother whom I met in Egypt when I traveled there about five years ago
The Shaykh : Ah
al-Halabi: His work was on this one, except that, of course, if he found something new and, I mean, edited it based on a manuscript or something like that, then I will search again and call you, if Allah wills
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you with good. I want to draw your attention to the fact that I had in Damascus an edition different from this one
al-Halabi: Yes
The Shaykh : And it is in size shorter than this one by about a centimeter
al-Halabi: Yes
The Shaykh : Then its paper is bright white
al-Halabi: Glory be to Allah
The Shaykh : As for this one, perhaps the one you have is like the one I have, brownish
al-Halabi: Correct
The Shaykh : Ah, so this is not the first edition
al-Halabi: Yes
The Shaykh : I do not remember now who started printing the first edition
al-Halabi: Yes
The Shaykh : So the important thing is that I do not remember if that phrase was present in that edition, so I doubted it, and it is our concern to find out if there is a manuscript
al-Halabi: No, by Allah, I do not have a manuscript, Shaykh
The Shaykh : No one is
al-Halabi: No, by Allah
The Shaykh : Okay, regarding al-Shawkani's phrase, in which book?
al-Halabi: Just a moment, it is close to me
The Shaykh : Yes
al-Halabi: Just a moment, Shaykh, peace be upon you
The Shaykh : And peace be upon you.
al-Halabi: It is in a book, Shaykh, and indeed, al-Ghamam 'ala Shifa' al-Awam, but as I mentioned to you, it is a manuscript, and in my opinion, the brother who quoted this phrase from it quoted it from the manuscript or indirectly, but I do not know it
The Shaykh : Yes, yes, you remember well that I quoted al-Shawkani's opinion in some articles I was writing, and you reminded me of it, until he has an explicit phrase, but it is disliked, if we are to be frank, for us to say, "my ignorance"
al-Halabi: Ah
The Shaykh : Because he says that the Islamic rulings are equal in standing
al-Halabi: Yes, that is correct
The Shaykh : Do you remember this phrase?
al-Halabi: Perfect, by Allah, it is the same phrase here
The Shaykh : So I quoted it, but I do not know if I quoted it from Nayl al-Awtar or from something else; I no longer remember
al-Halabi: By Allah, Shaykh, it is the same thing, "equal in standing," but of course, within a long discussion of about two and a half pages
The Shaykh : So, later, if Allah wills, I will look for where I quoted this phrase; it may be that the same phrase is found in more than one source for the author
al-Halabi: Yes, Shaykh, but the phrase you are referring to in your quotation, I think, is two lines
The Shaykh : Yes
al-Halabi: One and a half lines, small, I mean
The Shaykh : Correct.
al-Halabi: But this one, what Allah willed, is about two pages or more
The Shaykh : Okay, in any case, as I said, the research will continue
al-Halabi: May Allah make it easy
The Shaykh : And may Allah reward you with good
al-Halabi: May Allah preserve you, our professor
The Shaykh : Peace be upon you.
al-Halabi: And upon you peace and the mercy and blessings of Allah
The student: Shaykh, it seems to be in... may Allah know best, in the first volume
The Shaykh : What?
The student: The word you mentioned a little while ago
The Shaykh : It is not that we... it is quoted in my copy, but we are concerned about the two pages I am talking about, oh Allah
The Shaykh : Peace be upon you
The student: How are you, Shaykh?
The Shaykh : Praise be to Allah, I am well
The student: May Allah bless you
The Shaykh : May Allah preserve you.
The student: How is your health, are you well?
The Shaykh : We praise Him, Blessed and Exalted is He, always
The student: Praise be to Allah.
The Shaykh : Praise be to Allah.
The student: We are your brothers, students of knowledge from Yemen, we came to visit you specifically, Shaykh
The Shaykh : As for your coming to visit specifically
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : It should have been that before you moved
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : You should have inquired about my circumstances
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : Are we ready to receive you or not?
The student: We actually gave notice through Shaykh Mashhur
The Shaykh : And why not through the Shaykh of Shaykh Mashhur?
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : Not why was it not directly with us?
The student: Perhaps you are always busy, Shaykh, may Allah bless you
The Shaykh : And now we are not busy, and you are talking to us
The student: Yes, you are busy, but in any case, we are submissive to what you order
The Shaykh : No, I say, for your benefit, if you came from Yemen for the sake of visiting me
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : Then your journey was wasted
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : I say, for your sake
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : And I am not ready to receive every visitor with good
The student: May Allah reward you with good, Shaykh
The Shaykh : And in any case, the meeting will be on Friday if you remain in the mosque of Salah al-Din al-Ayyubi
The student: In the mosque of Salah al-Din
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: In the evening, or
The Shaykh : No, no, on Friday
The student: In the evening, ah
The Shaykh : On Friday after the prayer
The student: Okay, may Allah reward you with good, Shaykh
The Shaykh : And you, if Allah wills
The student: I ask Allah to make us and you successful in His obedience
The Shaykh : O Allah, amen, O Lord of the worlds
The student: Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : And peace be upon you, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.
The Shaykh : And upon you peace and the mercy of Allah
al-Halabi: Here, Shaykh, I am saying "and there is no difference in acting upon a hadith in rulings or in virtues, for all of it is Shari'ah"
The Shaykh : Okay, what edition do you have?
al-Halabi: I have the edition from al-Maktabah al-Salim al-Hadithah
The Shaykh : It is the same one I have; take the second edition
al-Halabi: The second edition
The Shaykh : Ah
al-Halabi: Yes, just a moment, I haven't found it yet, Shaykh, but I remembered something
The Shaykh : Please go ahead.
al-Halabi: That the second edition, I can say ninety-nine percent, is taken from the first edition, which is this one in our hands
The Shaykh : As for this one, it is not the first edition
al-Halabi: No, I mean, this is not the first edition, because the brother who edited it is an Egyptian brother whom I met in Egypt when I traveled there about five years ago
The Shaykh : Ah
al-Halabi: His work was on this one, except that, of course, if he found something new and, I mean, edited it based on a manuscript or something like that, then I will search again and call you, if Allah wills
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you with good. I want to draw your attention to the fact that I had in Damascus an edition different from this one
al-Halabi: Yes
The Shaykh : And it is in size shorter than this one by about a centimeter
al-Halabi: Yes
The Shaykh : Then its paper is bright white
al-Halabi: Glory be to Allah
The Shaykh : As for this one, perhaps the one you have is like the one I have, brownish
al-Halabi: Correct
The Shaykh : Ah, so this is not the first edition
al-Halabi: Yes
The Shaykh : I do not remember now who started printing the first edition
al-Halabi: Yes
The Shaykh : So the important thing is that I do not remember if that phrase was present in that edition, so I doubted it, and it is our concern to find out if there is a manuscript
al-Halabi: No, by Allah, I do not have a manuscript, Shaykh
The Shaykh : No one is
al-Halabi: No, by Allah
The Shaykh : Okay, regarding al-Shawkani's phrase, in which book?
al-Halabi: Just a moment, it is close to me
The Shaykh : Yes
al-Halabi: Just a moment, Shaykh, peace be upon you
The Shaykh : And peace be upon you.
al-Halabi: It is in a book, Shaykh, and indeed, al-Ghamam 'ala Shifa' al-Awam, but as I mentioned to you, it is a manuscript, and in my opinion, the brother who quoted this phrase from it quoted it from the manuscript or indirectly, but I do not know it
The Shaykh : Yes, yes, you remember well that I quoted al-Shawkani's opinion in some articles I was writing, and you reminded me of it, until he has an explicit phrase, but it is disliked, if we are to be frank, for us to say, "my ignorance"
al-Halabi: Ah
The Shaykh : Because he says that the Islamic rulings are equal in standing
al-Halabi: Yes, that is correct
The Shaykh : Do you remember this phrase?
al-Halabi: Perfect, by Allah, it is the same phrase here
The Shaykh : So I quoted it, but I do not know if I quoted it from Nayl al-Awtar or from something else; I no longer remember
al-Halabi: By Allah, Shaykh, it is the same thing, "equal in standing," but of course, within a long discussion of about two and a half pages
The Shaykh : So, later, if Allah wills, I will look for where I quoted this phrase; it may be that the same phrase is found in more than one source for the author
al-Halabi: Yes, Shaykh, but the phrase you are referring to in your quotation, I think, is two lines
The Shaykh : Yes
al-Halabi: One and a half lines, small, I mean
The Shaykh : Correct.
al-Halabi: But this one, what Allah willed, is about two pages or more
The Shaykh : Okay, in any case, as I said, the research will continue
al-Halabi: May Allah make it easy
The Shaykh : And may Allah reward you with good
al-Halabi: May Allah preserve you, our professor
The Shaykh : Peace be upon you.
al-Halabi: And upon you peace and the mercy and blessings of Allah
The student: Shaykh, it seems to be in... may Allah know best, in the first volume
The Shaykh : What?
The student: The word you mentioned a little while ago
The Shaykh : It is not that we... it is quoted in my copy, but we are concerned about the two pages I am talking about, oh Allah
The Shaykh : Peace be upon you
The student: How are you, Shaykh?
The Shaykh : Praise be to Allah, I am well
The student: May Allah bless you
The Shaykh : May Allah preserve you.
The student: How is your health, are you well?
The Shaykh : We praise Him, Blessed and Exalted is He, always
The student: Praise be to Allah.
The Shaykh : Praise be to Allah.
The student: We are your brothers, students of knowledge from Yemen, we came to visit you specifically, Shaykh
The Shaykh : As for your coming to visit specifically
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : It should have been that before you moved
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : You should have inquired about my circumstances
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : Are we ready to receive you or not?
The student: We actually gave notice through Shaykh Mashhur
The Shaykh : And why not through the Shaykh of Shaykh Mashhur?
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : Not why was it not directly with us?
The student: Perhaps you are always busy, Shaykh, may Allah bless you
The Shaykh : And now we are not busy, and you are talking to us
The student: Yes, you are busy, but in any case, we are submissive to what you order
The Shaykh : No, I say, for your benefit, if you came from Yemen for the sake of visiting me
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : Then your journey was wasted
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : I say, for your sake
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : And I am not ready to receive every visitor with good
The student: May Allah reward you with good, Shaykh
The Shaykh : And in any case, the meeting will be on Friday if you remain in the mosque of Salah al-Din al-Ayyubi
The student: In the mosque of Salah al-Din
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: In the evening, or
The Shaykh : No, no, on Friday
The student: In the evening, ah
The Shaykh : On Friday after the prayer
The student: Okay, may Allah reward you with good, Shaykh
The Shaykh : And you, if Allah wills
The student: I ask Allah to make us and you successful in His obedience
The Shaykh : O Allah, amen, O Lord of the worlds
The student: Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : And peace be upon you, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.