Discussion of ruqyah and the harm that the jinn inflict on those who perform it, along with other incidents.

The questioner : A trustworthy man told me.
Al-Halabi : From among the humans or from among the jinn?

The questioner : From among the humans, my Shaykh. We trust him and consider him a narrator. He was a small child who was afflicted with the evil eye, and they were unable to treat it. So an old woman came and placed her hand on his private parts, took some of the moisture from it, and applied it to him. It was as if he had been released from a rope. These are things that have been proven through practical experience to be beneficial for the evil eye, because the evil eye affects the soul in a malicious manner.

The Shaykh : This, my brother, is what I wanted to draw your attention to: the success of an experiment does not mean that it is permissible in the Shari'ah. Is this picture clear to you that it is not permissible in the Shari'ah?

The questioner : I mean, are not the moistures of a woman's private parts pure, my Shaykh?
Al-Halabi : What is narrated about this matter.

The questioner : This one or that one?

The Shaykh : No, it is the same one. She placed her hand on his private parts. This action is not prescribed.

The questioner So, my Shaykh, we are presenting this to you so that you clarify for us the Shari'ah limit by which we can deal with people.

The Shaykh : Okay, when the one afflicted with the evil eye urinates, is it between four walls or how?

The questioner : In an enclosed area so that this vapor returns to him or extinguishes this heated iron with his urine.
Abu Layla : In front of someone?

The questioner : No, not in front of someone.

The Shaykh : He says between four walls.

The questioner : Between four walls.

The questioner : And if you wish, my Shaykh, I will look for this in al-Fath and bring it to you.

The Shaykh: There is nothing wrong with it.

The questioner : Also, my Shaykh, al-Hafiz and others mentioned that gathering herbs and flowers from the wilderness in the spring season is also beneficial for the evil eye, by bathing with them, gathering them, boiling them, and then bathing with them.

Another questioner : Does this fall under the hadith of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him): If there are no violations of the Shari'ah, as you mentioned?

The Shaykh : There is no doubt.

The questioner : And the saying of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him): Does not this, my Shaykh, indicate that there is breadth in the matter as long as there is no shirk (associating partners with Allah)? Because the scholars prohibited ruqyah if it was with incomprehensible words or with what contradicts the Shari'ah, because every day, my Shaykh, we discover a method of treatment.

The Shaykh : Your research is not in ruqyah.

The questioner : Yes, but in treatment. Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allah have mercy on him) says in medicine: "Illnesses used to befall me that the physician al-Shafi'i was unable to treat, so I would take a handful of Zamzam water, recite verses over it, blow into it, drink it, and wipe with it, and I would be completely cured." This is what he says.
Al-Halabi : Food for the one who eats and healing for the one who is sick. Allah is the Greatest.

The questioner : Because I heard, my Shaykh, that you prohibit blowing into water. And regarding this matter, I tried blowing into water and found it to be one of the most beneficial treatments. A man who was bewitched and bound came to me. He had married a second wife, and he was bound and ruined in one go. So I recited over him and blew over him, and I blew for him into water after reciting over the water. He bathed with it and became vigorous. When I contacted him, I asked, "What is the news?" He said, "Vigorous."

The questioner : Do the jinn take forms?
Abu Layla : Its legs are like those of a cow.
Al-Halabi : Did you see it in a formed shape?

The questioner: No.
Al-Halabi : Dr. 'Adil, it seems he said once that he saw it.

The questioner : They take forms because a human cannot bear to see them. One man saw a jinni take the form of a beautiful woman from above and the legs of a sheep from below, so he fainted and went to the hospital. He continued to make a sound like a cow. I know this young man; his name is 'Adil. The doctors did not know what was wrong with him until a brother came there, and, what Allah wills, he recites. He recited over him and he was cured, praise be to Allah.

Another questioner : There was a man who worked a job like this. He said, "One day I sat at the dining table and said to the one who sat at the table, 'Rice has come, do not jump around,' and he did not mention the name of Allah. He said, 'I saw sizes like two matches, huge sizes, numbers, what Allah wills, there is no power except with Allah. Each one was the length of a match, and they were pecking at the rice, pecking.'"

The questioner : They love rice.

Another questioner : Yes, they love rice. He said, "When he said 'In the name of Allah,' there was not a single match or one left."

The questioner : Correct. Ibn Kathir mentioned that, my Shaykh, in the tafsir, from one of the Tabi'un (the generation after the Companions) that he saw rice. He was eating in a bowl and saw the grains of rice flying. So he mentioned the name of Allah and said, "Who is with us?" So the jinni spoke, and a conversation took place between them until he said to him, "Do you have these sects among you?" He said, "Yes." He said, "What do you consider the Rafidah (the Twelver Shi'ah) among you?" He said, "The worst of us."
Al-Halabi : Yes, Ibn al-Jawzi mentioned that in Talbis Iblis (The Deception of Satan).

The questioner : And from the strange stories, my Shaykh, a brother, may Allah reward you, has a stable, meaning a sheep pen, with many sheep in it. He said, "All night long, these sheep run around in fear and panic, as if wild beasts are chasing them." So he said to me, "We need a solution to this problem." I said to him, "Is this pen dark or lit?" He said, "No, it is dark." I said to him, "Light it, because the jinn fear the light just as humans fear the darkness. They acknowledge this, and this is tested."
Al-Halabi : As they said.

The questioner : As they said and as is the reality. So I said to him, "The first thing you do is light this pen, and the second thing is to call the adhan (the call to prayer) in this place." And indeed, he lit the place and raised the adhan there, and, what Allah wills, these sheep became calm.

The Shaykh : If I had consulted you to know whether the effect is the physical light or the Shari'ah adhan, it would have had to be in two stages. That is, you would tell him to light it, and if that did not succeed, you would tell him to call the adhan. Because the fact that Satan flees from the adhan has a text regarding it, as you know, yes. But you mixed the Shari'ah treatment with the physical treatment, so the benefit was lost.

The questioner : No, but that benefit is certain, my Shaykh.

The Shaykh : The benefit was lost. The effect of which of the two means?

The questioner : No, this effect is known; we have tried it, praise be to Allah.
Al-Hali: My Shaykh, his intention was the matter of the light.

The questioner : The matter of the light, but this is a separate matter, or...
Al-Halabi : The matter of the adhan is believed in, so leave the adhan. The light by itself; one did not describe the adhan, he described the light. Is it sufficient as the adhan is sufficient, or less, or more?

The questioner : It is sufficient, and the adhan may be repeated seven times.
Al-Halabi : Not the adhan, the light.

The questioner : The adhan.
Al-Halabi : The light.The Shaykh : He is asking about the light.

The questioner : Independently...
Al-Halabi : Start with the light.

The Shaykh : We want to try what has not been tried, meaning we want to try the light.

The questioner : There are some herbs that harm them, such as a herb called 'Ud Salib (Cross Wood). If you break it, you find inside it something resembling a cross. It has another name that I have forgotten now. Also, Indian costus (al-Qust al-Hindi) and black seed.
Al-Halabi : Is there something about Indian costus in the Sunnah? Do you remember, our professor?

The Shaykh : It is mentioned in the Sunnah.
Al-Halabi : But the authenticity.

The Shaykh : Yes, exactly.

The questioner : Also, my Shaykh, a herb called al-Halitat. It has a foul smell that harms them greatly. Also, my Shaykh, frankincense, which they use for incense... and its name is male frankincense, and its taste is bitter. In any case, my Shaykh, there are many stories.

The Shaykh : Okay, when you deal with matters in your house, is it inside the house or outside the house?

The questioner : No, I was in the mosque.

The Shaykh : In the mosque.

The questioner : In a place in the mosque I treat, but in my house I do not treat; because the jinn may expose the children or expose themselves, and they may attack me. Sometimes I am sitting and I feel as if a needle is piercing my leg or my hand.
Al-Halabi : Once your house burned down.

The questioner : Yes, once my house burned down in my absence, but the cause was known. The exhaust fan, which is a ventilation fan, I may have forgotten it, but one of our brothers' house burned down completely and the cause was not known.

The Shaykh : I mean, there are wonders from the aspect of...

The questioner : ... .

The Shaykh : In terms of burning houses, I say in the desert that they burned houses and they were not able to treat them except by a method where they came to him and he traveled with them and went there and recited, and they did not see anything but the burning...
Al-Halabi : This story was the cause of the spread of the mention of...The Shaykh : 'Ali...

The questioner : Yes, this is the story of al-Mutayri, and he mentioned that it has stories in history that happened, yes. In fact, there are houses that are thrown at with stones, pelted with stones at night. And there are houses, my Shaykh, in Bahrain that are inhabited by jinn, and you will not find anyone to buy them. Houses where you hear a buzzing and sounds. And a man told me, whom I consider to be from the righteous, face to face. He said, "My house is inhabited above, and they come and knock on my door in the same building. And they tell them, 'Okay, at prayer time,' they knock on his door."

The Shaykh : Where did we pass by a house whose people say it is inhabited?
Al-Halabi : Yes, the one on the overpass, I think. They mentioned once the one next to your house.
Abu Layla : The one next to the cemetery.

The questioner : Shaykh, every house that is in ruins, has no light, and is not inhabited by humans is exposed to being inhabited by jinn. A Saudi brother from Dammam came to me and said, “I have a problem. I have chickens in the house, and every night I find a chicken stabbed in the rear, and my house is securely locked. I recited Surat al-Baqarah and recited and recited, and eleven chickens have been stabbed so far. Every time I give him a prescription, it continues. He said, ‘I find papers thrown in my house ordering me to leave.’ I asked, ‘Do you have any enemies like that?’ He said, ‘Yes, there is a sorcerer who constantly threatens us and harms us.’ He said, ‘I also find money and things stolen from my house, meaning this sorcerer sends some jinn to steal from his money and throw these papers to clear this house for the jinn.’