Discussion of Husayn and his book, and the errors he fell into?

Abu Malik: The first thing is that I tried the study he did on the hadith, the hadithic study in the hadith of al-'Abd al-Ra'ud.

The Shaykh : How did you find out?
Abu Malik: Nizam sent it to me; Nizam came to it. And the second thing is that his visit did not recur.

The Shaykh: Do you have it?
Abu Malik: And you didn't have it either. Of course, this was one of the things he was told to be careful about, but he wasn't careful, so he didn't benefit from it at all. I heard what I wanted to read.

The Shaykh : You might hear something beautiful. First, he did not address mentioning many of the errors that were pointed out to him. On the contrary, he changed something of what was recorded against him. And you specifically remember when he discussed with you the rule that the affirming is preferred over the negating, how he completely denied it. So he developed the topic and said, "I answered..."The Shaykh : ...that I do not hold this rule in its absolute form.
Abu Malik: Is this in the book?

The Shaykh : This is in the book. And he added to that what he never said to you, which is that he said, "He said this there in the session." This is a lie and a fabrication. Unfortunately, he said, "No, first of all, we compare the narrations and do a review. If they contradict, we take the stronger position. If they are equal, then we apply the rule." This is contrary to what is stated in the terminology. Unfortunately, it does not encourage a man's relationships contrary to what I mentioned earlier, to the point that he did not attend your session, nor did he attend mine.

The questioner : A new edition was printed after meeting...The Shaykh ؟

The Shaykh : No, it was not printed.
Abu Malik: Nizam offered to me, saying, "I will answer him; he will bring Husayn to me and I will talk to him." I said to him, "I don't think there is any expected benefit from this." He said, "Why?" I said, "Because Husayn now thinks of himself as a scholar." And I said, "This is a great calamity. You are the only one in it. Yes, because in reality, this perception leads to ruin, and how many it has ruined." So I wanted, people, I said to him, "I am this... from him in the session at his house, and the session we held with..."The Shaykh : ...and from his book as well. I was at... I passed by some of the brothers who asked me to accompany them to Rida' Da'bul. When I entered, I found that Rida' had started speaking to me about this book, saying that Husayn fabricated against Shu'ayb in it. I said to him, "I told Husayn in a gathering..."The Shaykh : ...when we were remembering our Shaykh. When I told Husayb, I said to him, "You or..."The Shaykh : ...Shu'ayb did himself harm with his action in this book. He said, "By Allah, I said this to Shaykh Shu'ayb." And then he mentioned to me that this statement he recorded by reviewing...The Shaykh : ...Shu'ayb, this is not correct. Who is this? This is Rida'.

The Shaykh : Da'bul.
Abu Malik: Yes. And this statement was written by Shu'ayb on small pieces of paper, the paper being the size of a palm or smaller than a palm.

The Shaykh : A slip of paper.
Abu Malik: Paper slips, about four or five sheets. Shu'ayb denies that Husayn used to come to him to verify or review these hadiths, and says that he used to ask a passing question, not coming with the intention of taking from me a verification of these hadiths that he verified, or an admission from me that these hadiths are authentic, or an acknowledgment from me. But Husayn, this Husayn, wrote a response of about four or five pages, and supported this response he wrote, which was a response to...The Shaykh : ...Shu'ayb, with signatures from some of those who attended these gatherings.
Abu Layla : Abu Tariq.
Abu Malik: Abu Tariq was among them.
Abu Layla : Excuse me, Shaykh. Abu Tariq mentioned to me, our Shaykh, in my historical meeting with him, that the same Rida' Da'bul, when he saw the book, went mad and said, "If this is released to the market now, our book, which belongs to the office, will be disrupted." So a fierce discussion occurred between Marwan, Abu Marwan, and Shu'ayb al-Arna'ut. For this reason, our Shaykh Shu'ayb al-Arna'ut retracted his statement and turned against the man.

The Shaykh : But there is something you see from Da'bul that contradicts what he told me. And so Da'bul, as a publisher, because he called me and said, "What is your opinion of Husayn's book?" I forgot to answer him. And of course, he is not to be trusted. But I said to him, "However, he mentions that he called..."The Shaykh : ...Shu'ayb, andThe Shaykh : ...Shu'ayb agreed with him on many of the hadiths...
Abu Malik: He agreed with him on ninety hadiths.

The Shaykh : So Da'bul answered that...The Shaykh : ...Shu'ayb got involved. But I saw Shu'ayb, because he is an employee there and they need to keep him, so I did not point out his error to him. And in some of the hadiths that he weakened, which Husayn attributes to him, I discovered that Shu'ayb verified them in other books. This silenced me from attributing them to Husayn from him. And then Da'bul admitted that he got involved, saying, "What do I do about a case that happened?" And then we mentioned what we mentioned earlier. This will harm the book that Shu'ayb had edited. And Allah is the Helper. The important thing is that the man, in his book, there are two things that should be mentioned: that he retracted in a diplomatic way from weakening the hadith absolutely, so he verified it with corroborating narrations. And in any case, it is a secondary disagreement, meaning it is printed in the book, and it is a disagreement with his position in the session. But he excluded two parts of the hadith, saying, "We did not find, or one of the parts is" and the other part is the matter of the believer, "easy until what is the hadith?" He said, "He did not find a corroborating narration for this either." Meanwhile, the hadith that he weakened and followed up on me in, the hadith of al-'Abd al-Ra'ud, is published in *Silsilat al-Ahadith al-Sahihah* in the second volume, immediately before it. The corroborating narration that he denied is present, and from two routes. And if this indicates, as they say today, anything, it indicates that the man's mind is empty of hadith knowledge, or that he knew it and then ignored it. And the bitterest of them is bitter.
Abu Malik: Corroborating narrations do not agree with him.

The Shaykh : No, no, allow me. The issue is not the authenticity of something and the fact that he did not find a corroborating narration for it.
Abu Malik: Yes, he did not find it authentic.

The Shaykh : In that case, he says, "I found two corroborating narrations for it," if it were al-Albani, but there is such and such and such and such.
Al-Halabi : Our Shaykh, the last thing mentioned to me was why, the day before yesterday, one of the brothers, a young man, may Allah be pleased with him, due to financial circumstances, started working at...The Shaykh : ...Shu'ayb's. A good Shaykh, a man of methodology, truly. He was studying a Master's in Hadith at the University of Jordan. But when he saw them to be lacking in knowledge and distant, at the University of Jordan...

The Shaykh : At the Islamic University?
Al-Halabi : No, at the University of Jordan here. When he saw them to be lacking in knowledge, he packed his bags. His name is Nabil. He does not teach the young students, but he is a man of methodology. May Allah be pleased with him. His family is in Saudi Arabia, in Riyadh, yes, in the land of Tawhid. Do you see, my professor? Truly, when the man came to us, he was afraid for you. "What is the news these days?" and so on.The Shaykh : Shu'ayb was disappointed with me, and until now he does not speak for four months. He talks, and then he is disappointed with me, so he does not speak. I am in my state, and he is in his state. The topic of *Riyad al-Salihin* opened up, and so on. Abu Marwan said he was very strict, and I want to do... I don't know. But finally, it seems to me that they agreed that an introduction will be written for the new edition that satisfies all parties. Something strange.

The Shaykh: Allahu Akbar.

Another questioner : It is possible that all these sins are on the reader.

The Shaykh : How is that?

Another questioner : I say, all this heap and all this bulk is on the poor reader.

The Shaykh : Yes, meaning it is on his account.
Abu Malik: Correct, a scapegoat.

The Shaykh : There is no power nor strength except by Allah.
Abu Malik: I mean, it is not the reader at all. The reader, the student of knowledge, escapes from this, but 99.9% woe to them.

Another questioner : Especially the book *Riyad al-Salihin*, the book of the preachers of the mosques.
Al-Halabi : Our Shaykh, one of our brothers today, in whom we think all good, asked me a question. He said, "Do you expect from the man, who is the brother Husayn, rectification? That his state will be straight? That he will walk on the path? And so on?" So I said to him, "According to my opinion and my experience with the man, and according to the meeting that took place with..."The Shaykh : ...and the results that followed this meeting, it is far away, of course, in terms of probability. And hope in Allah is great, but in terms of the facts before us, it is not so. So I don't know, what is your opinion, my professor?

The Shaykh : By Allah, I say, we ask Allah for his guidance. As for the appearances, they do not bode well.
He has no news of the story of the theft of the hadith of seeking help from disbelievers in his thesis, or perhaps he did not look at the thesis itself.
Abu Malik: Which thesis? ... I did not read it all, meaning, not in detail and order, meaning...

The Shaykh : The important thing is, cut the story from the beginning.
Al-Halabi : The hadith was being written in the issue of seeking help and the response to the evidence of those who permit seeking help. So he borrowed from me at that time a thesis...The Shaykh : Rabi' in permitting reliance upon it. Yes, among the evidence he mentioned is a hadith in *Mashakil al-Athar* by al-Tahawi, and its chain of narration appears sound in terms of the narrators, and likewise

The Shaykh : And he
Al-Halabi: It is the hadith ... .