Continuation of the discussion on Hassan.

The Shaykh : The important thing is to tell the story from the beginning.
Al-Halabi : The hadith was being researched regarding the issue of seeking assistance and refuting the evidence of those who permit seeking assistance. So, he borrowed from me at that time a thesis by Rabee' on the permissibility of seeking assistance. Yes, so among the evidence he mentioned, may Allah accept, was a hadith in *Mashakil al-Athar* by al-Tahawi, and its chain of narration appears sound in terms of the narrators, and likewiseThe Shaykh : Regarding Rabi' in permitting seeking assistance, yes, one of the evidences he mentioned, may Allah accept, is a hadith in *Mashakil al-Athar* by al-Tahawi, and its chain of narration appears sound in terms of the narrators, and likewise

The Shaykh : What is it?
Al-Halabi: It is the hadith Yes, so he called me to ask me, saying

The Shaykh: Meaning, the Messenger went to the Jews to seek their assistance, peace and blessings be upon him, and he justified that with this phrase ... .
Al-Halabi: Yes, al-Harith, I think it is correct, al-Harith the narrator?

The Shaykh: I no longer remember.
Al-Halabi: No, no, it went, no problem.

The Shaykh : The important thing is
Al-Halabi: He says to me, what do you have on this hadith, or what is your opinion? I told him: By Allah, I remember that the hadith isThe Shaykh : weak because there is a Tabi'i in it, who is himself the narrator from the Messenger, this Tabi'i was mentioned by Ibn Abi Hatim. He said, but al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar mentioned him in *al-Isabah*. He said it is a mursal. Yes, it is mursal. He said, but al-Hafiz mentioned him in *al-Isabah*, so he must be a Companion, and establishing that he is a Companion is stronger than merely the words of Ibn Abi Hatim that he is a Tabi'i. So, by Allah, I askedThe Shaykh : may Allah reward him with good, soThe Shaykh : I do not remember, either the research was followed up before, or the research opens up some of itself. So the important thing is that the result was that his status as a Companion was not established through a sound path, and he tracedThe Shaykh : his hadiths, so al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar himself mentioned three hadiths for him. I think our Shaykh found a fourth hadith for him, surpassing al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar. In *al-Isabah*, he traced the ahad and mutan, tracing the knowledge of the Companions by Abu Nu'aym, tracing these books, all of these. So, after Hassan, I mentioned this summary to him. Then he came and borrowed tapes from Abu Ahmad. After that, we found this speech with this detail and this formatting exists in his book, which is *al-Jihad*. And yet, he claims and says, no, I did not benefit from anything, and I did not write anything.
Abu Layla: I asked him, our Shaykh, I told him, we will take the tapes. When he returned them to me, when he returned the tapes to me, I told him, you will attribute this speech that you heard fromThe Shaykh : in your book. He said, no, no, no, I am taking comfort with the words ofThe Shaykh : .
Abu Malik: He mentioned the words ofThe Shaykh : verbatim.
Al-Halabi: Not verbatim, of course, it is a repetition on him.

The Shaykh: The idea, meaning.
Abu Layla: Who was the one for whom it was weakened, Thabit ibn al-Harith?

The Shaykh: By Allah, I no longer remember it.
Abu Malik: Nor Hassan himself ... .
Al-Halabi: He himself,
Abu Layla: Even our Shaykh, may Allah preserve him, when we were once sitting
Al-Halabi: And in his thesis, he brought up strange things from the opinions of the jurists. Please
Abu Layla: We were once sitting in the house of one of the brothers, our Shaykh, in Abu Yahya's house. He was mentioning to the brother Ali, and a book fell into his hands. He did not know Hassan, and you did not know anything about him. The book, as soon as I started reading this book, I found that this book on the issue of seeking assistance was my ideas, until I thought that you, meaning, wrote it or composed it or something, meaning, excuse me, you wrote this book under a pseudonym. But when I entered the issue of jihad, I found that the author is not a jurist. I asked the brother Ali about it that day, and so on, and he said, this is Hassan, and so on.

The Shaykh: Correct, this is what happened with me. When I saw the research on this hadith, it is my speech. Who would want to take this speech from me except one of our brothers with whom we always talk? If this is the closest thing to being from Ali, I went back to the name and found the name is not Ali. If Ali, no problem, the Gulf, no, the Gulf did not want to, what, borrow a name like that. I knew from how much his research matches my research that I even knew that he took it from the tape.
Abu Malik: He was a medium, he was a medium ... .
Abu Layla: Or eight tapes, because I recorded twenty-four, twenty-three, in the Gulf War.
Abu Malik: Our Shaykh, meaning, this is not considered part of the isnad, this.