If we say that Allah is established above the Throne, does it follow that the Throne must be encompassing Him? This is impossible and invalid, and what follows from the invalid is invalid?
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The questioner : ... The evidence for the Throne and being established above the Throne indicates that the Throne encompasses ...
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : This is simple; did you hear the question?
The student: ...
The Shaykh : He says: If we say that Allah is established above the Throne, it follows that the Throne must be encompassing Him, and this is impossible and invalid, and what follows from the invalid is invalid. What is the answer?
The student: We say this applies to the created being.
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: As for the Creator, it is not so ...
The Shaykh : This applies to the created being, although even for the created being, it is permissible to be established on a small threshold smaller than you, is it not so? Yes, oh ...
The student: ...
The Shaykh : It becomes ... if it becomes the third, it is possible ... to be stable on it, even if you are larger than it. The point is that this does not follow, neither for the created being. And if you say it follows for the created being, it does not follow for the Creator, because Allah is not measured by creation.
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : This is simple; did you hear the question?
The student: ...
The Shaykh : He says: If we say that Allah is established above the Throne, it follows that the Throne must be encompassing Him, and this is impossible and invalid, and what follows from the invalid is invalid. What is the answer?
The student: We say this applies to the created being.
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: As for the Creator, it is not so ...
The Shaykh : This applies to the created being, although even for the created being, it is permissible to be established on a small threshold smaller than you, is it not so? Yes, oh ...
The student: ...
The Shaykh : It becomes ... if it becomes the third, it is possible ... to be stable on it, even if you are larger than it. The point is that this does not follow, neither for the created being. And if you say it follows for the created being, it does not follow for the Creator, because Allah is not measured by creation.