(Clarification that the actions of Allah are of two types: those that subsist in Him and are intrinsic, and those that subsist in other than Him and are transitive) The truth is that the attribute is not the locus of this division; this is what the proof necessitates, but
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The Shaykh :"The truth is that the attribute is not the locus of the division; this is what the proof necessitates
but the locus of the division is what has subsisted *** in the Essence of the One, the Most Merciful.
So they are, then, of two types: attributes and actions; this is the division of clarification."
Yes, he says that the locus of the division is not what this denier of actions held, where he says that Allah is described with actions, but they do not pertain to His Essence, and He is described with conceptual attributes that pertain to His Essence. This is not correct. Rather, the locus of the division is what the author (may Allah have mercy on him) said: that actions are of two types: those that subsist in the Essence of Allah and those that subsist in other than Him, meaning those that are transitive to the other and those that are intrinsic. So, rising above the Throne does not extend to the other; descending to the lowest heaven does not extend to the other; creation
The student: extends
The Shaykh : extends to the other. Creation necessarily requires a created being; it necessarily requires a created being. Descending necessarily requires one who descends. Is that clear? So Ibn al-Qayyim says that the locus of the division is not that this is an attribute and this is an action, with the attribute being permanent and the action not permanent. Rather, the locus of the division is that actions are of two types, which are
The student: intrinsic
The Shaykh : intrinsic
The student: and transitive
The Shaykh : and transitive, meaning what does not go beyond the Essence and what goes beyond it to other than it.
"So the attribute"
Yes
The questioner : Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Yes
but the locus of the division is what has subsisted *** in the Essence of the One, the Most Merciful.
So they are, then, of two types: attributes and actions; this is the division of clarification."
Yes, he says that the locus of the division is not what this denier of actions held, where he says that Allah is described with actions, but they do not pertain to His Essence, and He is described with conceptual attributes that pertain to His Essence. This is not correct. Rather, the locus of the division is what the author (may Allah have mercy on him) said: that actions are of two types: those that subsist in the Essence of Allah and those that subsist in other than Him, meaning those that are transitive to the other and those that are intrinsic. So, rising above the Throne does not extend to the other; descending to the lowest heaven does not extend to the other; creation
The student: extends
The Shaykh : extends to the other. Creation necessarily requires a created being; it necessarily requires a created being. Descending necessarily requires one who descends. Is that clear? So Ibn al-Qayyim says that the locus of the division is not that this is an attribute and this is an action, with the attribute being permanent and the action not permanent. Rather, the locus of the division is that actions are of two types, which are
The student: intrinsic
The Shaykh : intrinsic
The student: and transitive
The Shaykh : and transitive, meaning what does not go beyond the Essence and what goes beyond it to other than it.
"So the attribute"
Yes
The questioner : Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Yes