The Meaning of the Poet's Saying: "Had you not taken our side, you would have been *** in the middle of the lion's den, your flesh torn apart. But by us you sought help, and by our words *** you charged against them with the charge of the brave."
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The Shaykh : He says: "Had you not taken our side, you would have been *** in the middle of the lion's den, your flesh torn apart.
But by us you sought help, and by our words *** you charged against them with the charge of the brave."
By what did they charge against them? By what we say.
The people of ta'til (denial of the divine attributes) said to the people of tashbih (likening Allah to creation), the philosophers: "We have known that the messengers came with the affirmation of the resurrection, and that the doubt preventing it is defective, so it is necessary to say what it necessitates, or not?"
We also said to the people of ta'til (denial of the divine attributes), just as they said to the people of tashbih (likening Allah to creation): "We have known that the messengers came with the affirmation of the attributes, and we have known that the doubt preventing it is defective, so it is necessary to say what it necessitates, yes, or what it entails."
"But by us you sought help, and by our words *** you charged against them"
What did we say? We said to them: "We have known that the messengers came with the affirmation of the attributes, and that the doubt preventing it is defective, so it is necessary to say what it entails."
They said: "This noble saying is for whom? For the heretical philosophers who deny the resurrection. They said: 'We have known that the messengers came with the affirmation of the resurrection, and we have known that the doubt preventing it is defective, so it is necessary to say what it entails.' So they charged against them with what we charged against them with. Thus, they sought help against them with what? With our words and our weapon. So had not Allah appointed us for them, they would not have been able to refute the path of these people, to refute the saying of these people. He said:
"And you wore" Yes, "But by us you sought help, and by our words *** you charged against them with the charge of the brave.
And you wore the affirmation" Huh?
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Yes, and "wore" (walamtu)
The student: ...
The Shaykh : One person refutes me, and "wore" (walamtu) a thousand times before the lam, what is it for me, for you...
The student: ...
The Shaykh : And "wore" (walamtu)? For you, if you charged (salatam) or if you charged (idh salatam).
The student: If (idh)
The Shaykh : Yes, but that's it, the problem is gone. And "wore" (walamtu).
But by us you sought help, and by our words *** you charged against them with the charge of the brave."
By what did they charge against them? By what we say.
The people of ta'til (denial of the divine attributes) said to the people of tashbih (likening Allah to creation), the philosophers: "We have known that the messengers came with the affirmation of the resurrection, and that the doubt preventing it is defective, so it is necessary to say what it necessitates, or not?"
We also said to the people of ta'til (denial of the divine attributes), just as they said to the people of tashbih (likening Allah to creation): "We have known that the messengers came with the affirmation of the attributes, and we have known that the doubt preventing it is defective, so it is necessary to say what it necessitates, yes, or what it entails."
"But by us you sought help, and by our words *** you charged against them"
What did we say? We said to them: "We have known that the messengers came with the affirmation of the attributes, and that the doubt preventing it is defective, so it is necessary to say what it entails."
They said: "This noble saying is for whom? For the heretical philosophers who deny the resurrection. They said: 'We have known that the messengers came with the affirmation of the resurrection, and we have known that the doubt preventing it is defective, so it is necessary to say what it entails.' So they charged against them with what we charged against them with. Thus, they sought help against them with what? With our words and our weapon. So had not Allah appointed us for them, they would not have been able to refute the path of these people, to refute the saying of these people. He said:
"And you wore" Yes, "But by us you sought help, and by our words *** you charged against them with the charge of the brave.
And you wore the affirmation" Huh?
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Yes, and "wore" (walamtu)
The student: ...
The Shaykh : One person refutes me, and "wore" (walamtu) a thousand times before the lam, what is it for me, for you...
The student: ...
The Shaykh : And "wore" (walamtu)? For you, if you charged (salatam) or if you charged (idh salatam).
The student: If (idh)
The Shaykh : Yes, but that's it, the problem is gone. And "wore" (walamtu).