The Meaning of the Poet's Saying: "If His actions and attributes are denied, *** and His speech and the elevation of the Sovereign, *** then by what is He a Lord in your view, *** O sect of investigation and recognition?"
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The Shaykh :"If His actions and attributes are denied, *** and His speech and the elevation of the Sovereign,
then by what is He a Lord in your view, *** O sect of investigation and recognition?"
By what did they deny the accidents? Yes, my intention is that they denied the actions on the grounds that they are accidents. And accidents do not subsist except in an accident. They denied the attributes on the grounds that they are accidents, and accidents do not subsist except in bodies, and bodies are similar to one another. They denied the above-ness, saying that it necessitates that Allah be in a direction, and a direction encompasses what is in it, so the above-ness must be denied. They denied the rising above the Throne, saying that the Throne is a space, meaning a place that contains what is in it. So if we affirm the rising above the Throne, it necessitates that Allah be contained in a space, so the rising of Allah above the Throne must be denied. And it has been mentioned that they denied the speech. So if they denied His actions, His attributes, His speech, and His above-ness, what remains? For this reason, he said:
"Then by what is He a Lord in your view, *** O sect of investigation and recognition?"
And this is a saying: "O sect of investigation and recognition," in the sense of truth? No, it is in the sense of mockery and derision of them, and they are worthy of being mocked and derided.
then by what is He a Lord in your view, *** O sect of investigation and recognition?"
By what did they deny the accidents? Yes, my intention is that they denied the actions on the grounds that they are accidents. And accidents do not subsist except in an accident. They denied the attributes on the grounds that they are accidents, and accidents do not subsist except in bodies, and bodies are similar to one another. They denied the above-ness, saying that it necessitates that Allah be in a direction, and a direction encompasses what is in it, so the above-ness must be denied. They denied the rising above the Throne, saying that the Throne is a space, meaning a place that contains what is in it. So if we affirm the rising above the Throne, it necessitates that Allah be contained in a space, so the rising of Allah above the Throne must be denied. And it has been mentioned that they denied the speech. So if they denied His actions, His attributes, His speech, and His above-ness, what remains? For this reason, he said:
"Then by what is He a Lord in your view, *** O sect of investigation and recognition?"
And this is a saying: "O sect of investigation and recognition," in the sense of truth? No, it is in the sense of mockery and derision of them, and they are worthy of being mocked and derided.