The story of Shaykh Nasib al-Rifai and the reason Shaykh Al-Albani boycotted him.
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The questioner : Regarding our professor, the matter of Nasib al-Rifai, because I heard... excuse me, just one word... thatThe Shaykh : Nasib al-Rifai, and this happened in front of me: he came wanting to greet you and so on, and to apologize, and so forth. So you told him, do you remember exactly what you told him? "Go and correct yourself," or did you use an expression involving personal upbringing for a personal matter that seems to be between you and him?
The Shaykh : Do you remember it correctly?
The questioner : It was something like that; I told him a word close to that, meaning "correct yourself." I told him, it was like, or something like that. He was greeting you, and you told him, "Sit down, go, you first correct yourself."
The Shaykh : Do you remember your lesson?
The questioner : No, it wasn't like that.
The Shaykh : Do you remember your lesson?
The questioner : Did you hear it recorded?
The questioner : No, personally, I was sitting there, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Listen, Abu 'Abdullah, listen.
The questioner : I asked you later, I told you, why did you treat him like that? I, of course, did not understand what the issue was between you and him, so I understood from you that he went to Saudi Arabia and lied about you in front of the Saudi scholars in matters. So you said this, that for the water to return to its course, he must go back to the people he spoke about you in front of, apologize, and say that this speech was false, a lie, and a fabrication. And I did not mean that thisThe Shaykh : is what he did.
The Shaykh : May Allah, if He wills, O Shaykh, make him one of those whom Allah mentioned in the Qur'an:[At-Tawbah 9:102]
The questioner : Why, O Shaykh?
The Shaykh : I mean, may Allah accept your repentance, because now you have fabricated a lie about the man.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : And the man was absent, and you fabricated a great lie about him.
The questioner : What is it?
The Shaykh : He did not go to the Saudis, nor did he come for this issue. He goes to your place to perform 'Umrah and Hajj at the expense of the group, and so on.
The questioner : Some of the shaykhs.
The Shaykh : But you did not intend this, of course, right?
The questioner : No, no, I did not say he went to Saudi Arabia for this reason.
The Shaykh : If he had...
The questioner : He goes to Saudi Arabia, he goes and comes back...
The Shaykh : And he spoke there...
The questioner : He spoke about you; I heard this from you, you.
The Shaykh : This is a lie, it is shameful for you.
The questioner : I mean, he did not say this in front of the Saudi shaykhs?
The Shaykh : I mean, the difference between you and him.
The questioner : There was confusion, I mean.
The questioner : Did we show him the red light, O our Shaykh?
The Shaykh : No, no, it happened to him as that poet said:
"She traveled east and I traveled west, ** How vast the difference between east and west,"
I did not tell him to go south, I told him to go north, for there is his reform and there is his repentance!
The questioner : Where is the north?
The Shaykh : In Aleppo, in the middle of Aleppo.
The questioner : So who of them is the one who spoke? If one of these two who went spoke about you in front of the Saudis.
The Shaykh : That al-Barqawi, we have nothing to do with him.
The questioner : Do you see if I made a mistake?
The Shaykh : So you judged him, and if Allah takes what He has given, He drops what He has obligated.
The questioner : No, it is not normal, believe me, O professor, it is not normal, and Allah knows best.
The Shaykh : Now you.
The questioner : Record, record.
The questioner : Confusion, confusion.
The Shaykh : But now, if he wants to record, if someone wants to write a book about those who became confused, I am afraid you will record your name with them, meaning what do you want, more confusion than this!
The questioner : I heard, because I asked you, you told me he would be reformed, and you lied to me, and so on, so I raised it...
The questioner : Confusing the rope with the gourd.
The Shaykh : The one who lied to me is al-Barqawi.
The questioner : Ah.
The Shaykh : And between me and Nasib there is nothing, and until now I say he should repent to Allah the Mighty and Sublime and apologize to that man.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : The one who used to fabricate lies about him, yes, and between me and him there is nothing!
The questioner : It is not about you, O professor, the person.
The Shaykh : No, it is not about me, and even if he made a mistake with me, it is enough that he told me that you are... but when was this, after this issue? And even so, I assume that this did not happen.
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : And what he said is recorded.
The questioner : Ah.
The Shaykh : And it is recorded with your imam, do you see how.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : So he told me, "Yes, you are my Shaykh and you have a favor over me, and so on, but you are a misguided Shaykh!"
The questioner : Did he say that to you?
The questioner : Did he tell you "a misguided Shaykh"?
The Shaykh : Yes, despite all this.
The questioner : What kind of person is this.
The Shaykh : Despite all this, this has nothing to do with...
The questioner : Yes, of course, this is a jurisprudential ruling.
The Shaykh : For now, I think you, in any case, you distinguish between the two men, between that one about whom Allah dropped what He obligated, and between this one.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : This is your duty now, that you go to him and tell him thatThe Shaykh : you are boycotting him, and I think you know the reason for the boycott.
The questioner : It is necessary.
The Shaykh : And of course, he will not mention to you
The questioner : Of course.
The Shaykh : So you remind him to send a written apology to the one you were with in the da'wah. You two were companions in the Salafi da'wah in Aleppo, and the people were followers around them. He started speaking about him falsely and with slander.
The questioner : Ya Latif (O Magnificent).
The Shaykh : He writes to him an apology for his mistake with him, and that he has repented to Allah and turned back, and we are brothers as we were before, and then what is between me and the man will be removed.
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : So between me and him there is nothing, and if there were something between me and him, I would tell you no, he says to me "a misguided Shaykh," and I know that he was like the rest of the people who were given some general culture, but he had no Salafi methodology at all. And the reason that Allah made him become a Salafi was me, and the praise belongs to Allah the Mighty and Sublime.
The questioner : He mentions this always, and by Allah, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : I know him, you do not know him, he shaved his beard and kept his mustache in the style of Stalin, even if he did not know Stalin at that time and his mustaches, but this was the reality. And he used to smoke the water pipe, do you know what "smoking the water pipe" means?
The questioner : How is the water pipe?
The Shaykh : Yes, may Allah preserve you.
The questioner: Amen.
The Shaykh : And he used to visit me in the shop, and my shop...
The questioner : Is known...
The Shaykh : Yes, he would sit, and he would not sit with me, and discussions would happen, then he would go to vent his frustration in the coffee shop with the water pipe, and his water pipe there in the house in Aleppo is preserved, and so on. And he used to deny the descent of 'Isa (peace be upon him) and the hadiths reported about it, like the rationalists, those who say... then Allah the Mighty and Sublime made this servant frequent Aleppo for two reasons: first, to study the manuscripts existing in the Islamic Endowments Library there, and second, to hold scholarly circles. The man was a noble man, and I used to stay with him always, for years, then we moved to the one who became his greatest enemy later and fabricated lies about him.
The questioner : Who is this? You must have heard about him.
The Shaykh : His name is Muhammad Nasser Kermani. He came to Oman once or more. In any case, these two houses were like brothers' houses, they visited each other, all of them, women and men, meaning because of the great affection and connection. Later, he is not a scholar, first of all.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : He is a writer and a poet. His companion Muhammad Nasser was almost illiterate, but, by Allah's will, he was given intelligence, memorization, understanding, and interest in the da'wah, especially from the scientific side, much more than him. What does that mean? What caused this satanic whisper? We do not know. Nasib, in one of his lessons, one of his circles, stated that the wives of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) are protected from zina.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : That is impossible. It is beautiful poetic speech, beautiful poetic speech. Why? Because it is exalting the wives of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him), and they are undoubtedly chaste and protected, and so on. But this is a belief, a belief that they are protected from such things. He stopped for him, and you know, Salafi lessons do not have coercion.The Shaykh : He said, and that was it.
The questioner : No, there is no taking and giving.
The Shaykh : No, there is no taking and giving.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : He told him, "O professor, what is your evidence?" I no longer remember now, in that session, what his answer was, but.
The questioner : There is evidence from the Qur'an.
The Shaykh : Oh, you have evidence? By Allah's will?
The questioner : ... about the purification of the Prophet's (peace and blessings be upon him) household. Ah, this is what he uses as evidence. We are hearing the speech from him.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : He says, "This purification, if it is not from zina or in zina, then what is it?" This is what I heard from him literally.
The Shaykh : And what did you hear from others?
The questioner : By Allah, I mean, I heard from you, what is the response to him in this?
The Shaykh : What did you hear from others?
The questioner : From others, I mean, you or someone else?
The Shaykh : What is it to you, me or someone else... from others.
The questioner : I have not heard this from others, this is the first time I am hearing... from him.
The Shaykh : This man is blinding himself, he is getting himself into trouble with his tongue. I am widening the space for you, why are you narrowing it?
The questioner : I mean, I am about to say that I have not found this in any tafsir books I have come across, and this is the first time I have heard this topic. This is regarding the issue of the immunity of the wives of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) from committing fornication. This is the first time I have heard it fromThe Shaykh : Nasaib only.
The Shaykh: May Allah forgive you.
The questioner : And to you.
The Shaykh : O Allah, amen.
The questioner : We would like to hear from you.
The Shaykh : Since you have heard the argumentation from the man.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : I am truly afraid for you now.
The questioner : Why?
The Shaykh : Why? Because you have no resistance.
The questioner : What resistance? It is enough that his opinion is new and no one has said this before; that alone is sufficient for me.
The Shaykh : What do you know? He is the author of a treatise and he conveyed it to you, and so on.
The questioner : If he wrote a thousand pages, what difference would that make to me?
The Shaykh : It makes a difference to you that you know how to dismantle his evidence. What matters is...
The questioner : We benefit from you.
The Shaykh : There was a discussion between the two men, and the discussions multiplied between them, each holding to his own opinion. You know Nasaib’s opinion: it is a belief that every Muslim must hold that the wives of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) are immune from committing a heinous sin. Our companion’s opinion is that this issue, as a belief according to our Salafi methodology, requires evidence.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : And although we believe that they were chaste, noble, and guarded women, and so on, he said that this is not enough; this is not enough unless you believe it.
The questioner : That the result is the same.
The Shaykh : The result is the same.
The questioner : Glory be to Allah.
The Shaykh : But no, it makes a difference that it is obligatory to believe thus. So where is the evidence for this? They entered into long and extensive discussions until a person came to me saying, "Send him, our brother," especially since I realized the group would disband because of the intensity of the disagreement between the two men.
The questioner : Ya Latif (O Magnificent).
The Shaykh : Do you remember it correctly?
The questioner : It was something like that; I told him a word close to that, meaning "correct yourself." I told him, it was like, or something like that. He was greeting you, and you told him, "Sit down, go, you first correct yourself."
The Shaykh : Do you remember your lesson?
The questioner : No, it wasn't like that.
The Shaykh : Do you remember your lesson?
The questioner : Did you hear it recorded?
The questioner : No, personally, I was sitting there, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Listen, Abu 'Abdullah, listen.
The questioner : I asked you later, I told you, why did you treat him like that? I, of course, did not understand what the issue was between you and him, so I understood from you that he went to Saudi Arabia and lied about you in front of the Saudi scholars in matters. So you said this, that for the water to return to its course, he must go back to the people he spoke about you in front of, apologize, and say that this speech was false, a lie, and a fabrication. And I did not mean that thisThe Shaykh : is what he did.
The Shaykh : May Allah, if He wills, O Shaykh, make him one of those whom Allah mentioned in the Qur'an:
They had mixed a righteous deed with another that was bad
خلط عملا صالحا وآخر سيئاThe questioner : Why, O Shaykh?
The Shaykh : I mean, may Allah accept your repentance, because now you have fabricated a lie about the man.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : And the man was absent, and you fabricated a great lie about him.
The questioner : What is it?
The Shaykh : He did not go to the Saudis, nor did he come for this issue. He goes to your place to perform 'Umrah and Hajj at the expense of the group, and so on.
The questioner : Some of the shaykhs.
The Shaykh : But you did not intend this, of course, right?
The questioner : No, no, I did not say he went to Saudi Arabia for this reason.
The Shaykh : If he had...
The questioner : He goes to Saudi Arabia, he goes and comes back...
The Shaykh : And he spoke there...
The questioner : He spoke about you; I heard this from you, you.
The Shaykh : This is a lie, it is shameful for you.
The questioner : I mean, he did not say this in front of the Saudi shaykhs?
The Shaykh : I mean, the difference between you and him.
The questioner : There was confusion, I mean.
The questioner : Did we show him the red light, O our Shaykh?
The Shaykh : No, no, it happened to him as that poet said:
"She traveled east and I traveled west, ** How vast the difference between east and west,"
I did not tell him to go south, I told him to go north, for there is his reform and there is his repentance!
The questioner : Where is the north?
The Shaykh : In Aleppo, in the middle of Aleppo.
The questioner : So who of them is the one who spoke? If one of these two who went spoke about you in front of the Saudis.
The Shaykh : That al-Barqawi, we have nothing to do with him.
The questioner : Do you see if I made a mistake?
The Shaykh : So you judged him, and if Allah takes what He has given, He drops what He has obligated.
The questioner : No, it is not normal, believe me, O professor, it is not normal, and Allah knows best.
The Shaykh : Now you.
The questioner : Record, record.
The questioner : Confusion, confusion.
The Shaykh : But now, if he wants to record, if someone wants to write a book about those who became confused, I am afraid you will record your name with them, meaning what do you want, more confusion than this!
The questioner : I heard, because I asked you, you told me he would be reformed, and you lied to me, and so on, so I raised it...
The questioner : Confusing the rope with the gourd.
The Shaykh : The one who lied to me is al-Barqawi.
The questioner : Ah.
The Shaykh : And between me and Nasib there is nothing, and until now I say he should repent to Allah the Mighty and Sublime and apologize to that man.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : The one who used to fabricate lies about him, yes, and between me and him there is nothing!
The questioner : It is not about you, O professor, the person.
The Shaykh : No, it is not about me, and even if he made a mistake with me, it is enough that he told me that you are... but when was this, after this issue? And even so, I assume that this did not happen.
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : And what he said is recorded.
The questioner : Ah.
The Shaykh : And it is recorded with your imam, do you see how.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : So he told me, "Yes, you are my Shaykh and you have a favor over me, and so on, but you are a misguided Shaykh!"
The questioner : Did he say that to you?
The questioner : Did he tell you "a misguided Shaykh"?
The Shaykh : Yes, despite all this.
The questioner : What kind of person is this.
The Shaykh : Despite all this, this has nothing to do with...
The questioner : Yes, of course, this is a jurisprudential ruling.
The Shaykh : For now, I think you, in any case, you distinguish between the two men, between that one about whom Allah dropped what He obligated, and between this one.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : This is your duty now, that you go to him and tell him thatThe Shaykh : you are boycotting him, and I think you know the reason for the boycott.
The questioner : It is necessary.
The Shaykh : And of course, he will not mention to you
The questioner : Of course.
The Shaykh : So you remind him to send a written apology to the one you were with in the da'wah. You two were companions in the Salafi da'wah in Aleppo, and the people were followers around them. He started speaking about him falsely and with slander.
The questioner : Ya Latif (O Magnificent).
The Shaykh : He writes to him an apology for his mistake with him, and that he has repented to Allah and turned back, and we are brothers as we were before, and then what is between me and the man will be removed.
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : So between me and him there is nothing, and if there were something between me and him, I would tell you no, he says to me "a misguided Shaykh," and I know that he was like the rest of the people who were given some general culture, but he had no Salafi methodology at all. And the reason that Allah made him become a Salafi was me, and the praise belongs to Allah the Mighty and Sublime.
The questioner : He mentions this always, and by Allah, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : I know him, you do not know him, he shaved his beard and kept his mustache in the style of Stalin, even if he did not know Stalin at that time and his mustaches, but this was the reality. And he used to smoke the water pipe, do you know what "smoking the water pipe" means?
The questioner : How is the water pipe?
The Shaykh : Yes, may Allah preserve you.
The questioner: Amen.
The Shaykh : And he used to visit me in the shop, and my shop...
The questioner : Is known...
The Shaykh : Yes, he would sit, and he would not sit with me, and discussions would happen, then he would go to vent his frustration in the coffee shop with the water pipe, and his water pipe there in the house in Aleppo is preserved, and so on. And he used to deny the descent of 'Isa (peace be upon him) and the hadiths reported about it, like the rationalists, those who say... then Allah the Mighty and Sublime made this servant frequent Aleppo for two reasons: first, to study the manuscripts existing in the Islamic Endowments Library there, and second, to hold scholarly circles. The man was a noble man, and I used to stay with him always, for years, then we moved to the one who became his greatest enemy later and fabricated lies about him.
The questioner : Who is this? You must have heard about him.
The Shaykh : His name is Muhammad Nasser Kermani. He came to Oman once or more. In any case, these two houses were like brothers' houses, they visited each other, all of them, women and men, meaning because of the great affection and connection. Later, he is not a scholar, first of all.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : He is a writer and a poet. His companion Muhammad Nasser was almost illiterate, but, by Allah's will, he was given intelligence, memorization, understanding, and interest in the da'wah, especially from the scientific side, much more than him. What does that mean? What caused this satanic whisper? We do not know. Nasib, in one of his lessons, one of his circles, stated that the wives of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) are protected from zina.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : That is impossible. It is beautiful poetic speech, beautiful poetic speech. Why? Because it is exalting the wives of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him), and they are undoubtedly chaste and protected, and so on. But this is a belief, a belief that they are protected from such things. He stopped for him, and you know, Salafi lessons do not have coercion.The Shaykh : He said, and that was it.
The questioner : No, there is no taking and giving.
The Shaykh : No, there is no taking and giving.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : He told him, "O professor, what is your evidence?" I no longer remember now, in that session, what his answer was, but.
The questioner : There is evidence from the Qur'an.
The Shaykh : Oh, you have evidence? By Allah's will?
The questioner : ... about the purification of the Prophet's (peace and blessings be upon him) household. Ah, this is what he uses as evidence. We are hearing the speech from him.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : He says, "This purification, if it is not from zina or in zina, then what is it?" This is what I heard from him literally.
The Shaykh : And what did you hear from others?
The questioner : By Allah, I mean, I heard from you, what is the response to him in this?
The Shaykh : What did you hear from others?
The questioner : From others, I mean, you or someone else?
The Shaykh : What is it to you, me or someone else... from others.
The questioner : I have not heard this from others, this is the first time I am hearing... from him.
The Shaykh : This man is blinding himself, he is getting himself into trouble with his tongue. I am widening the space for you, why are you narrowing it?
The questioner : I mean, I am about to say that I have not found this in any tafsir books I have come across, and this is the first time I have heard this topic. This is regarding the issue of the immunity of the wives of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) from committing fornication. This is the first time I have heard it fromThe Shaykh : Nasaib only.
The Shaykh: May Allah forgive you.
The questioner : And to you.
The Shaykh : O Allah, amen.
The questioner : We would like to hear from you.
The Shaykh : Since you have heard the argumentation from the man.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : I am truly afraid for you now.
The questioner : Why?
The Shaykh : Why? Because you have no resistance.
The questioner : What resistance? It is enough that his opinion is new and no one has said this before; that alone is sufficient for me.
The Shaykh : What do you know? He is the author of a treatise and he conveyed it to you, and so on.
The questioner : If he wrote a thousand pages, what difference would that make to me?
The Shaykh : It makes a difference to you that you know how to dismantle his evidence. What matters is...
The questioner : We benefit from you.
The Shaykh : There was a discussion between the two men, and the discussions multiplied between them, each holding to his own opinion. You know Nasaib’s opinion: it is a belief that every Muslim must hold that the wives of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) are immune from committing a heinous sin. Our companion’s opinion is that this issue, as a belief according to our Salafi methodology, requires evidence.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : And although we believe that they were chaste, noble, and guarded women, and so on, he said that this is not enough; this is not enough unless you believe it.
The questioner : That the result is the same.
The Shaykh : The result is the same.
The questioner : Glory be to Allah.
The Shaykh : But no, it makes a difference that it is obligatory to believe thus. So where is the evidence for this? They entered into long and extensive discussions until a person came to me saying, "Send him, our brother," especially since I realized the group would disband because of the intensity of the disagreement between the two men.
The questioner : Ya Latif (O Magnificent).
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