An interjection by Ali al-Halabi supporting the Shaykh’s position that it is necessary to receive the recitations without following a scholar without knowing his evidence.

Al-Halabi : Knowledge has several branches. Among these branches are the recitations, hadith, Islamic jurisprudence, and others. The principle in knowledge is that it must be taken from its evidence; otherwise, it would not be knowledge. Following a scholar without knowing his evidence is taking something without evidence, whereas knowledge is taking something from evidence. The research that was raised, as I mentioned at the beginning, is a very good example of any research raised regarding the recitations in general. It is that not every word or every technical term is accepted as is, as they say. Rather, it is accepted according to the evidence. The professor repeatedly referred to the technical term in your mind. Not every technical term is accepted as is; rather, it is accepted according to the evidence. Otherwise, this would open a very wide door for saying and repeating, and for following a scholar without knowing his evidence in the religion of Allah (Mighty and Majestic). This is not permissible in the principles of knowledge. Therefore, the conclusion of the research on the issue of *Malik* and *Mulk*, as long as it is established by the Sunnah and the authentic Sunnah, and a scholar recited it, this is the knowledge. Whether it is the transmission you have in mind, this is what he heard from that person.The Shaykh : He received it from him, but not in the manner that is in your mind, that he sits before him for a year or two to recite the Qur'an from its beginning to its end. He received it with knowledge, and this is the thing I referred to at the beginning in the hadith I quoted from *Al-Silsilah al-Sahihah*, Part 4, page 28: . The one who recited the hadith or the verse with *Mulk* at the beginning recited as he was taught, and the one who transmitted it from him and recited like him also recited as he was taught. Therefore, it is not permissible to separate transmission from knowledge. Every knowledge is transmission, but not every transmission is knowledge. Ah, my Shaykh?

The Shaykh : How could it not be?

The questioner : This is a very important point in reality. Now, much of the transmission that we received in tajwid, or even in the books of Islamic jurisprudence, as the professor indicated, is transmission. But is it knowledge? No.

The Shaykh : Some of it.

The questioner : Some of it is so, and some of it is so, as our professor also mentioned that there is disagreement in the issue, like any scientific research and like any other image. And I think, meaning, this is sufficient, if Allah wills, of what he mentioned.The Shaykh : .