Is it permissible to borrow money from a person when you know that this person trades in what is forbidden?

The questioner : Are you able to borrow money from a person when you know that this person trades in what is forbidden?

The Shaykh : Your question is understood, but it is incorrect because you want to say, "Is it permissible?" Since you are asking me about my ability, I tell you that I am able. But your question is, "Is it permissible?"

The questioner : Am I able to do so according to the Shari'ah?

The Shaykh : I know, may Allah guide you. I said your intention is clear, but your wording is rejected. This issue has many similar cases. For example, if he invites you to a meal, is it permissible to accept his invitation? This is such and such, and so on. The answer is: if the only intention is to benefit from him financially, then it is not permissible. But if the intention is to establish a bond between you and him so that you can fulfill the duty of advising him not to commit this forbidden act or this forbidden earnings, then it is permissible.

The questioner : And in the case of his apostasy from this trade, the shop where he sells and trades in what is forbidden, and he sells it for an amount, for example, that doubles the amount he paid previously, what is the ruling on the excess amount he paid? What is the ruling on the money that came to him from selling the forbidden item?

The Shaykh : I did not understand.

The questioner : Okay. One person bought a shop.

The Shaykh : This is from ... America.

The questioner : Excuse me, Imam Ali, at the end of his answer to a question, said, "Qalun," meaning in the Roman dialect, good.

The Shaykh : Do not say "Imam Ali" a second time, and "Abu Bakr"?

The questioner : Imam.

The Shaykh : Have I ever said "Imam Abu Bakr"? Say no. If I speak between you and me, no one hears us, this is hidden Shi'ism.

The questioner : There is a man who bought a shop that trades in intoxicants. After five years, or ten years, our Lord guided him and he left this shop. So when he entered the shop, he paid an amount of money, and when he left, he had double that amount. What is the ruling on the excess money, or the money ...?

The Shaykh : In its essence, it is forbidden within the forbidden, because whatever its fruit is from what is forbidden, it is forbidden.

The questioner : What is the action? What should he do?

The Shaykh : He? If he repents to Allah the Exalted and Majestic, he must get rid of all this money, even if by way of gradualism, because he cannot do it all at once, as I think. But he should fear Allah the Exalted and Majestic and spend a portion of it in one go, which he cannot do, and record the rest with him so that he can spend it in public facilities, so that his money is purified completely. Public facilities only.
Al-Halabi : If it is said that he should recover his capital, of course, and spend the rest.

The Shaykh : His capital, if it was lawful.
Al-Halabi : When he bought the shop, he bought it from his own money.

The questioner : Allah knows best. He did not buy it from what is lawful; he bought it from the bank.

The Shaykh : This is with this condition.

The questioner : This is one of the issues among the issues that are still present. I have other questions for the Shaykh, if Allah wills, in another session.

The Shaykh: May Allah will it.

The questioner : You built the entire case on ... .

The Shaykh : Whatever is built on what is defective is defective.