What is the evidence for the post-prayer sunnah when combining the midday and afternoon prayers due to the excuse of rain?

Mashhur: And the evidence for that is the same evidence for the sunnah of Isha and the Witr prayer. If one argues that the original ruling for acts of obedience or worship is prohibition until evidence comes, then no evidence has come regarding the sunnah of Isha or the Witr, especially since the time for the prayer has not yet passed and the time is its time. And no evidence has come from the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) specifically regarding this matter, either affirming or denying it. The original ruling for matters is that they remain as they are until evidence comes that contradicts the established original ruling.

The Shaykh : This is understood from his words that he wants to use this premise to conclude that he prays the sunnah between the midday and afternoon prayers, is that so?
Mashhur: But according to what has come from the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), there is no distinction between them; he prays the post-prayer sunnah, but there is no distinction between them.
Al-Halabi : The post-prayer sunnah is after the second prayer.
Mashhur: After the second prayer, because the time is its time afterwards.

The Shaykh : Is this in accordance with the original ruling, or is it contrary to the original ruling?
Mashhur: It is contrary to the original ruling because a text has come regarding that, and the original ruling remains as it is.

The Shaykh : The post-prayer sunnah that is after Dhuhr; its prayer is after Asr, as you say. Is that contrary to the original ruling or in accordance with the original ruling?
Mashhur: If the time is its time, it is in accordance with the original ruling.

The Shaykh : Without the "if," because it is known that it is its time, and it is not its time?

The questioner : The time is still the time of Dhuhr; the time of Dhuhr remains with the Asr prayer in the case of combining by bringing forward. The time of the Dhuhr prayer is still present.

The Shaykh : We say the sunnah prayer is after Asr. The post-prayer sunnah of Dhuhr, which occurs before the obligatory Asr prayer; if he prays it after Asr, is this contrary to the original ruling or in accordance with the original ruling?
Mashhur: It is contrary to the original ruling after the time of Asr.

The Shaykh : Yes, contrary to the original ruling.
Mashhur: After the time of Asr, but the time of Asr has not yet come.

The Shaykh : My brother, in truth, we are now discussing the wording. Asr has now been brought forward and prayed with Dhuhr. Delaying this sunnah, whose time is after Dhuhr, until it is prayed after the obligatory Asr prayer—we understand that Asr was prayed in the time of Dhuhr, and there is no need now to reiterate that we are still in the time of Dhuhr; this is present in the mind. The question is in this case: when the two prayers, Dhuhr and Asr, are combined by bringing forward, and the post-prayer sunnah related to the obligatory Dhuhr is not prayed, is praying it after Asr in accordance with the original ruling or contrary to the original ruling?
Mashhur: It is contrary to the original ruling in the case of combining.

The Shaykh : Well, in that case, we return to his adherence to the original ruling. Since this is contrary to the original ruling, he must have evidence. And this specific evidence is not present here. That is one thing. The second thing is that we said that combining contradicts inserting the post-prayer sunnah between the two prayers. So this person, as it appears to us, does not pray the sunnah that separates the two obligatory prayers, but he says that he prays it after Asr. Well, praying this sunnah after Asr is contrary to the original ruling, as happened with the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) when the people came to him and occupied him with the post-prayer sunnah, so he (peace and blessings be upon him) prayed it after Asr. And when he was asked about the reason, he said So when he prayed it after Asr, he did not pray it in its time, and it was contrary to the original ruling, and the excuse was that he was occupied with the people. So with the same premise, which is actually correct, we say: as long as the prayer of this sunnah is after Asr, and that is contrary to its time, then we say that specific evidence is necessary for us to say that we pray the sunnah after the obligatory Asr prayer. If someone says this prayer, we ask him: is it making up a missed prayer or performing it in its time? The answer also branches from what was explained earlier. If he says it is in accordance with the original ruling, it is performing it in its time. If he says it is contrary to the original ruling, it is making up a missed prayer. So we say: did the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) make up this sunnah? The answer is: if he had done so, it would have been reported.
Mashhur: Even if it were performing it in its time?

The Shaykh : We have refuted that. If it were performing it in its time, we have refuted that this is contrary to the original ruling. How can it be performing it in its time? A sunnah that is prayed after Asr, and its place is after Dhuhr, is called performing it in its time?

The questioner : Because it is established that the times of the prayers in the case of constriction are three. The time of Dhuhr and Asr is now shared. So if it is performing it in its time, it means that if you pray it, it will be performing it in its time.

The Shaykh : No, have you seen if a man misses the pre-prayer sunnah of Dhuhr, does he pray it after the obligatory prayer or after the post-prayer sunnah?
Mashhur: What is transmitted in the books of jurisprudence is both this and that, but I do not know, meaning the answer.
Al-Halabi : Shaykh, Bado is telling you if someone else said it!

The Shaykh : I only want you.
Mashhur: I do not know.

The Shaykh : Of course, he prays it after that, because the time for this has passed. We do not make a time for it that separates the obligatory prayer from the sunnah that is in its time and ... what comes after it.
Al-Halabi : The pre-prayer sunnah is after the post-prayer sunnah.
Mashhur: Excuse me, if it is asked what is the evidence for that? Regarding the same issue of combining, what is the difference between the post-prayer sunnah not being prayed in such a situation, and this being a departure from the original ruling?

The Shaykh : What is the departure from the original ruling?
Mashhur: Praying the pre-prayer sunnah after the pre-prayer sunnah, after the obligatory prayer, and after the post-prayer sunnah.

The Shaykh : It appears that he went ... that we say it should be intended this way?
Mashhur: No.

The Shaykh : Is the discussion about making up the pre-prayer sunnah or about performing it in its time?
Mashhur: No, about making it up.

The Shaykh : The time for that has passed, and the time for the post-prayer sunnah remains in its place. So inserting [the pre-prayer sunnah] between the obligatory prayer and the post-prayer sunnah is what requires evidence.

The questioner : As for the pre-prayer sunnah, the evidence for it is established.

The Shaykh : Of course, it is established in terms of the coming of evidence? May Allah forgive you.
Al-'Uwaishah: Regarding the issue of prayer, the issue of the order of the Dhuhr and Asr prayers. If he prayed Asr before Dhuhr, he repeats it, as we say regarding the order of the obligatory prayer in the times. Why do we not say the same regarding the order of the voluntary prayer?

The Shaykh : Why, what?
Al-'Uwaishah: Why do we not say regarding the order of the voluntary prayer in the time, meaning pre-prayer and post-prayer, just as we say if he prayed Asr before Dhuhr, we tell him to repeat the prayer? Here, pre-prayer and post-prayer regarding the time, meaning after he finished the obligatory prayer, why is it not said ...

The Shaykh : Is the pre-prayer sunnah relative to a sunnah with a sunnah, or a sunnah with an obligatory prayer?
Al-'Uwaishah: Relative to what is the pre-prayer sunnah?

The Shaykh : A sunnah with an obligatory prayer or a sunnah with a sunnah?
Al-'Uwaishah: With a sunnah.

The Shaykh : Where do you have two sunnahs here, and this is described as pre-prayer and the other as post-prayer? So now you are asking, do you mean pre-prayer relative to a sunnah with a sunnah, or a sunnah with an obligatory prayer?
Al-'Uwaishah: I mean relative to the sunnah, a sunnah with a sunnah. The obligatory prayer that was established before the post-prayer one, so I mean relative to the post-prayer sunnah, meaning a sunnah with a sunnah.

The Shaykh : A sunnah with a sunnah, a sunnah before a sunnah? For example, the even number before the Witr, like that? Yes, there is no such thing in our topic.
Al-'Uwaishah: I meant, regarding the issue of the sunnah, the pre-prayer and post-prayer sunnahs, that their time is known, that the pre-prayer is before the post-prayer. A specific incident occurred, so why do we not, if I may express it, make up the pre-prayer sunnah and perform the post-prayer sunnah, just as if a person, for example, wanted to pray Dhuhr and Asr, he prays Dhuhr then Asr. If he did not pray Asr before Dhuhr, he is told to repeat the prayer. I do not know, you might say that I repeated the previous one.

The Shaykh : Definitely.
Mashhur: ... What is the difference between performing the post-prayer sunnah or before it, and in both cases it is making up a missed prayer?

The Shaykh : I did not pay attention to my words.
Mashhur: Inserting [it] requires evidence.

The Shaykh : There is nothing more in the issue than what you have heard.