Is it permissible for the ma'mum to precede the imam in saying the ameen?
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The questioner : Is it permissible for the ma'mum to precede the imam by saying: Ameen, after al-Fatihah?
The Shaykh : Precede him with the Ameen?
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : What does it mean to precede him with the Ameen?
The questioner : Precede him by saying: Ameen.
The Shaykh : But after he has said: And not the astray?
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : There is no harm in that.
The questioner : Precede him?
The Shaykh : Yes, he precedes him, because the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) said: But he used to say Ameen immediately, after saying: And not the astray, he would say: Ameen. And in Sahih Muslim, from Abu Hurayrah, that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: إذا قال: ولا الضالين فقولوا: آمين When he says: And not the astray, then say: Ameen.
So he made the place of our saying: when the imam says: .
As for those among the people who assume that his saying (peace and blessings be upon him):Sunan Abi Dawud 936Sahih (Al-Albani) The meaning of his saying: is when he begins, as evidenced by the second wording I mentioned to you: إذا قال: ولا الضالين فقولوا: آمين When he says: And not the astray, then say: Ameen.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : I heard the hadith: إذا قال: ولا الضالين فقولوا: آمين When he says: And not the astray, then say: Ameen We said: meaning: When he begins the ameen, then say ameen.
The Shaykh : Precede him with the Ameen?
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : What does it mean to precede him with the Ameen?
The questioner : Precede him by saying: Ameen.
The Shaykh : But after he has said: And not the astray?
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : There is no harm in that.
The questioner : Precede him?
The Shaykh : Yes, he precedes him, because the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) said:
Do not precede me in saying Ameen
لا تسبقوني بآمينSo he made the place of our saying:
Ameen
آمينnor those who go astray
ولا الضالينAs for those among the people who assume that his saying (peace and blessings be upon him):
When the Imam says Amin, say Amin
إذا أمَّن الإمام فأمِّنواWhen he says ameen
إذا أمَّنThe questioner : ...
The Shaykh : I heard the hadith: إذا قال: ولا الضالين فقولوا: آمين When he says: And not the astray, then say: Ameen We said:
