If it is said "about his father," does the pronoun always refer to the one mentioned?
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The questioner : If it is said "about his father," does the pronoun always refer to the one mentioned?
The Shaykh : Yes, "from so-and-so ibn so-and-so, from his father" means his direct father.
The questioner : 'Amr ibn Shu'ayb, from his father, from his grandfather...?
The Shaykh : There is a difference of opinion on this because, according to some scholars, he did not meet his grandfather. Therefore, they said it is possible that it is a broken chain, but the correct view is that there is no break in it.
The questioner : You mean Shu'ayb, O Shaykh?
The Shaykh : 'Amr ibn Shu'ayb, from his father, from his grandfather; the chain is connected.
The questioner : You say Shu'ayb did not meet him?
The Shaykh : No, it is from 'Amr ibn Shu'ayb, from his father, from his grandfather. His grandfather is 'Abd Allah ibn 'Amr ibn al-'As, and his father is Muhammad ibn 'Abd Allah ibn 'Amr ibn al-'As. It is Shu'ayb about whom there is disagreement.
The questioner : I am asking about this...
The Shaykh : No, there is a difference of opinion on this, and the correct view is that there is no problem with the chain.
The questioner : The correct view is that the intended Shu'ayb is not the Shaykh because...
In the hadith, it is said "from 'Amr, he said: I saw," so it explicitly states that the father is 'Amr. So I mean that there is a context when it is said "from so-and-so, from so-and-so."
The Shaykh : If it is said "so-and-so, from his father 'Amr, for example, or Khalid," the intended meaning is the direct father; this is the default rule.
The Shaykh : Yes, "from so-and-so ibn so-and-so, from his father" means his direct father.
The questioner : 'Amr ibn Shu'ayb, from his father, from his grandfather...?
The Shaykh : There is a difference of opinion on this because, according to some scholars, he did not meet his grandfather. Therefore, they said it is possible that it is a broken chain, but the correct view is that there is no break in it.
The questioner : You mean Shu'ayb, O Shaykh?
The Shaykh : 'Amr ibn Shu'ayb, from his father, from his grandfather; the chain is connected.
The questioner : You say Shu'ayb did not meet him?
The Shaykh : No, it is from 'Amr ibn Shu'ayb, from his father, from his grandfather. His grandfather is 'Abd Allah ibn 'Amr ibn al-'As, and his father is Muhammad ibn 'Abd Allah ibn 'Amr ibn al-'As. It is Shu'ayb about whom there is disagreement.
The questioner : I am asking about this...
The Shaykh : No, there is a difference of opinion on this, and the correct view is that there is no problem with the chain.
The questioner : The correct view is that the intended Shu'ayb is not the Shaykh because...
In the hadith, it is said "from 'Amr, he said: I saw," so it explicitly states that the father is 'Amr. So I mean that there is a context when it is said "from so-and-so, from so-and-so."
The Shaykh : If it is said "so-and-so, from his father 'Amr, for example, or Khalid," the intended meaning is the direct father; this is the default rule.