Discussion of Logic and Its Study
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The questioner : The Shaykh ... says that this is all speech ... this speech is not ... if it is not mentioned
The Shaykh : It is as if you want us to study the wrong
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : ... like this ...
The Shaykh : In any case, first, we do not need logic, but it is the people of Kalam who forced the scholars of the Sunnah to enter into this; they forced them into it. If I had told you yesterday, or in the lesson before, that we are in no need of all these studies, except that we were forced into them, we would not have entered into them. For Allah, Mighty and Majestic, has magnified Himself in your heart, and He has affirmed for Himself what He affirmed, and denied of Himself what He denied, and that is enough. The Companions (may Allah be pleased with them) did not say this thing.
The questioner : ... his confrontation with ...
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : He argues with this, and when you say ... the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said, and he says, he said ...
The Shaykh : He said, what?
The questioner : He said ... he ...
The Shaykh : Yes, yes ... yes
The questioner : He said ...
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : That is, there is no evidence that ... this statement ... the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him)
The Shaykh : It is known, there is no doubt
The questioner : He will say, he told me ... if he said ...
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : He says, how does he answer this, and does he admit it? He says yes, and after ... that is ... the doubt
The Shaykh : It does not contradict ...
The questioner : Analogical reasoning
The Shaykh : Yes, analogical reasoning, whether illustrative or formal, a person must know at least a little of it. But what forces him to do so is that people entered into this; they entered into it ... he says ... he has no need of it. And the Shaykh al-Islam says in his refutation of the logicians, in its introduction: "I always thought that Greek logic is not needed by the intelligent, nor is it of benefit to the foolish"
The student: I say ... this is called wisdom, this ... it can become this wisdom ...
The Shaykh : In any case, logic, yes, it is ... a pleasant and good art, and it develops the intellect a little and intelligence, but it means it wastes a little time
The student: ...
The Shaykh : If you have the ability to give it to the students, I have a small booklet that might be of some use to them
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: ... give them the scale of knowledge ...
The Shaykh : From Allah's guidance, let him work hard so that when he is tired, he rests
The student: ... concise
Another student: It might need ...
The Shaykh : Yes, yes, okay
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : The name of the book
The Shaykh : The book, I mean, I took it from some books, from here, from ... small, not big
The questioner : ...
The student: And I have ...
The Shaykh : You.
The student: And this is also in logic, in these sentences
The Shaykh : Yes, small, I mean small
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Yes ... a little difficult, difficult
The questioner : Shaykh, Shaykh
The Shaykh : Yes
The Shaykh : It is as if you want us to study the wrong
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : ... like this ...
The Shaykh : In any case, first, we do not need logic, but it is the people of Kalam who forced the scholars of the Sunnah to enter into this; they forced them into it. If I had told you yesterday, or in the lesson before, that we are in no need of all these studies, except that we were forced into them, we would not have entered into them. For Allah, Mighty and Majestic, has magnified Himself in your heart, and He has affirmed for Himself what He affirmed, and denied of Himself what He denied, and that is enough. The Companions (may Allah be pleased with them) did not say this thing.
The questioner : ... his confrontation with ...
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : He argues with this, and when you say ... the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said, and he says, he said ...
The Shaykh : He said, what?
The questioner : He said ... he ...
The Shaykh : Yes, yes ... yes
The questioner : He said ...
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : That is, there is no evidence that ... this statement ... the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him)
The Shaykh : It is known, there is no doubt
The questioner : He will say, he told me ... if he said ...
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : He says, how does he answer this, and does he admit it? He says yes, and after ... that is ... the doubt
The Shaykh : It does not contradict ...
The questioner : Analogical reasoning
The Shaykh : Yes, analogical reasoning, whether illustrative or formal, a person must know at least a little of it. But what forces him to do so is that people entered into this; they entered into it ... he says ... he has no need of it. And the Shaykh al-Islam says in his refutation of the logicians, in its introduction: "I always thought that Greek logic is not needed by the intelligent, nor is it of benefit to the foolish"
The student: I say ... this is called wisdom, this ... it can become this wisdom ...
The Shaykh : In any case, logic, yes, it is ... a pleasant and good art, and it develops the intellect a little and intelligence, but it means it wastes a little time
The student: ...
The Shaykh : If you have the ability to give it to the students, I have a small booklet that might be of some use to them
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: ... give them the scale of knowledge ...
The Shaykh : From Allah's guidance, let him work hard so that when he is tired, he rests
The student: ... concise
Another student: It might need ...
The Shaykh : Yes, yes, okay
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : The name of the book
The Shaykh : The book, I mean, I took it from some books, from here, from ... small, not big
The questioner : ...
The student: And I have ...
The Shaykh : You.
The student: And this is also in logic, in these sentences
The Shaykh : Yes, small, I mean small
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Yes ... a little difficult, difficult
The questioner : Shaykh, Shaykh
The Shaykh : Yes
