(Explanation that whoever affirms the attributes for Allah has been testified to by all the messengers as a believer, and by the deniers of the attributes as a disbeliever) They testified to the faith of the one who affirmed that He is *** above
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The Shaykh : He says:
"They testified to the faith of the one who affirmed that He is *** above the heavens, distinct from the creations"
This means: The messengers testified to the faith of the one who affirmed that He is above the heavens, distinct from the creations
"And you testified to the disbelief of the one *** who said that, O people of transgression"
Is this a difference or not a difference?
The student: It is a difference.
The Shaykh : Is it a difference, O servant of the Bestower of Grace? And what is the difference?
The student: That what the messengers testified to is not as what the people of denial of the attributes testified to.
The Shaykh : The messengers testify that whoever affirms the exaltation of Allah is a believer, and you testify that whoever affirms the exaltation of Allah is a disbeliever, so you have completely contradicted the messengers.
"And you testified to the disbelief of the one *** who said that, O people of transgression"
"They testified to the faith of the one who affirmed that He is *** above the heavens, distinct from the creations"
This means: The messengers testified to the faith of the one who affirmed that He is above the heavens, distinct from the creations
"And you testified to the disbelief of the one *** who said that, O people of transgression"
Is this a difference or not a difference?
The student: It is a difference.
The Shaykh : Is it a difference, O servant of the Bestower of Grace? And what is the difference?
The student: That what the messengers testified to is not as what the people of denial of the attributes testified to.
The Shaykh : The messengers testify that whoever affirms the exaltation of Allah is a believer, and you testify that whoever affirms the exaltation of Allah is a disbeliever, so you have completely contradicted the messengers.
"And you testified to the disbelief of the one *** who said that, O people of transgression"