This is an indication: the hearing and the intellect, of our knowledge of the meanings of the texts of the attributes.
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The Shaykh : He said: "This is the indication of the hearing and the intellect, of our knowledge of the meanings of the texts of the attributes. As for their indication of our ignorance of them in terms of the modality, that has been mentioned previously in the sixth rule of the rules of the attributes" that we cannot know the modality, and it is also not permissible to seek to reach knowledge of it, nor is it permissible to conceive of any modality with regard to Allah (Mighty and Majestic).
He said: "And by this, the invalidity of the doctrine of the Mu'awwidah is known, who delegate the knowledge of the meanings of the texts of the attributes, and claim that this is the doctrine of the Salaf" and this, as I told you, is found in the books of the commentators of hadith in whom we have the utmost trust, but no one is free from ignorance and error. Yes.
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah said: Yes.
The student: And the Salaf.
The Shaykh : Yes. "The Salaf are free from this doctrine, and their statements have been mass-transmitted affirming the meanings of these texts, sometimes in general terms and sometimes in detail, and delegating the modality to the knowledge of Allah (Mighty and Majestic)" And whoever wants more citations should refer to the books of the Sunnah compiled on this topic. For example, they agreed on this phrase regarding the texts of the attributes: "They affirmed them as they came, without how" Take this word from the Salaf: they affirmed them as they came, without how. This is well-known from the imams of the Tabi'un. This indicates that they affirm the meaning from two angles:
The first angle is their saying: "They affirmed them as they came" because we know that they are words that came for meanings, not just to be recited.
The second is their saying: "without how" because the negation of the modality, O Mahmoud, you are with us, yes, because the negation of the modality is evidence of the establishment of the original meaning. If the meaning were not established, we would not need to negate the modality.
He said: "And by this, the invalidity of the doctrine of the Mu'awwidah is known, who delegate the knowledge of the meanings of the texts of the attributes, and claim that this is the doctrine of the Salaf" and this, as I told you, is found in the books of the commentators of hadith in whom we have the utmost trust, but no one is free from ignorance and error. Yes.
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah said: Yes.
The student: And the Salaf.
The Shaykh : Yes. "The Salaf are free from this doctrine, and their statements have been mass-transmitted affirming the meanings of these texts, sometimes in general terms and sometimes in detail, and delegating the modality to the knowledge of Allah (Mighty and Majestic)" And whoever wants more citations should refer to the books of the Sunnah compiled on this topic. For example, they agreed on this phrase regarding the texts of the attributes: "They affirmed them as they came, without how" Take this word from the Salaf: they affirmed them as they came, without how. This is well-known from the imams of the Tabi'un. This indicates that they affirm the meaning from two angles:
The first angle is their saying: "They affirmed them as they came" because we know that they are words that came for meanings, not just to be recited.
The second is their saying: "without how" because the negation of the modality, O Mahmoud, you are with us, yes, because the negation of the modality is evidence of the establishment of the original meaning. If the meaning were not established, we would not need to negate the modality.