Explanation of the author's statement: "As for the Wa'idiyyah, we say to them: Your claim that the doer of a major sin is outside the scope of faith contradicts what the Book and the Sunnah indicate"
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The Shaykh :"As for the Wa'idiyyah". Who are they? The Khawarij and the Mu'tazilah.
"We say to them: Your claim that the doer of a major sin is outside the scope of faith contradicts what the Book and the Sunnah indicate".
Did the Book and the Sunnah indicate that the doer of a major sin does not exit the scope of faith? Good, where is the evidence? We listen to the evidence. Allah the Exalted said in the verse of retaliation:[Al-Baqarah 2:178] Allah the Exalted made the killer a brother to the one killed, even though killing the soul is forbidden by explicit text and scholarly consensus. Is it from the major sins or the minor sins? It is from the major sins.
And He the Exalted said regarding the fighting of some believers against others, He said:[Al-Hujurat 49:9-10] So Allah made the two fighting factions brothers to the faction that reconciles.
And it is known that fighting a Muslim, what is it? It is disbelief, meaning a type of disbelief. And yet, Allah, Glorified and Exalted is He, named these two fighting factions, He called them brothers to the faction that reconciles.
Good, if that is the case, we say: "contradicts what the Book and the Sunnah indicate. If that is clear, how can we rule that two men are equal in faith, one of whom is moderate, and the moderate one is the one who performs the obligatory acts and leaves the forbidden ones, while the other is one who wrongs himself by doing what Allah has forbidden him and by leaving"
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : No, and by leaving, and by leaving, "what Allah has made obligatory upon him, without doing anything that constitutes disbelief?"
Is this possible?
Pay attention. Two men, one of whom is moderate, performing the obligatory acts and leaving the forbidden ones, but he does not perform the recommended practices, he only performs the obligatory, this is a believer even according to the Khawarij and the Mu'tazilah. How can he be equal to a man who wrongs himself, doing what Allah has forbidden him and leaving what Allah has made obligatory upon him, without doing anything that constitutes disbelief? It is not possible for them to be equal. Which one is more complete? The first one.
"And we say secondly: Suppose we excluded the doer of a major sin from faith, how can we rule that two men are equal in faith, one of whom is moderate and the other is a forerunner in good deeds by the permission of Allah?"
One of them is moderate, meaning he restricts himself to the obligatory acts and leaves the forbidden ones, and the other is a forerunner in good deeds by the permission of Allah, meaning he performs the obligatory and the recommended acts and leaves the forbidden and the prohibited things, so it is not possible for us to say that they are equal.
Do you extend us? How much is left?
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : Good, ten minutes are left.
"We say to them: Your claim that the doer of a major sin is outside the scope of faith contradicts what the Book and the Sunnah indicate".
Did the Book and the Sunnah indicate that the doer of a major sin does not exit the scope of faith? Good, where is the evidence? We listen to the evidence. Allah the Exalted said in the verse of retaliation:
But whoever overlooks from his brother anything, then there should be a suitable follow-up
فمن عفي له من أخيه شيء فاتباع بالمعروفAnd He the Exalted said regarding the fighting of some believers against others, He said:
(9) And if two factions among the believers should fight, then make settlement between the two. But if one of them oppresses the other, then fight against the one that oppresses until it returns to the ordinance of Allah. And if it returns, then make settlement between them in justice and act justly. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly. (10) The believers are but brothers, so make settlement between your brothers. And fear Allah that you may receive mercy.
وإن طائفتان من المؤمنين اقتتلوا فأصلحوا بينهما فإن بغت إحداهما على الأخرى فقاتلوا التي تبغي حتى تفيء إلى أمر الله فإن فاءت فأصلحوا بينهم بالعدل وأقسطوا إن الله يحب المقسطين * إنما المؤمنون إخوة فأصلحوا بين أخويكمAnd it is known that fighting a Muslim, what is it? It is disbelief, meaning a type of disbelief. And yet, Allah, Glorified and Exalted is He, named these two fighting factions, He called them brothers to the faction that reconciles.
Good, if that is the case, we say: "contradicts what the Book and the Sunnah indicate. If that is clear, how can we rule that two men are equal in faith, one of whom is moderate, and the moderate one is the one who performs the obligatory acts and leaves the forbidden ones, while the other is one who wrongs himself by doing what Allah has forbidden him and by leaving"
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : No, and by leaving, and by leaving, "what Allah has made obligatory upon him, without doing anything that constitutes disbelief?"
Is this possible?
Pay attention. Two men, one of whom is moderate, performing the obligatory acts and leaving the forbidden ones, but he does not perform the recommended practices, he only performs the obligatory, this is a believer even according to the Khawarij and the Mu'tazilah. How can he be equal to a man who wrongs himself, doing what Allah has forbidden him and leaving what Allah has made obligatory upon him, without doing anything that constitutes disbelief? It is not possible for them to be equal. Which one is more complete? The first one.
"And we say secondly: Suppose we excluded the doer of a major sin from faith, how can we rule that two men are equal in faith, one of whom is moderate and the other is a forerunner in good deeds by the permission of Allah?"
One of them is moderate, meaning he restricts himself to the obligatory acts and leaves the forbidden ones, and the other is a forerunner in good deeds by the permission of Allah, meaning he performs the obligatory and the recommended acts and leaves the forbidden and the prohibited things, so it is not possible for us to say that they are equal.
Do you extend us? How much is left?
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : Good, ten minutes are left.