You stated that the necessary implication of the claim that the Qur'an is created is the invalidation of command and prohibition. What is your response to those who say that there are created things from which a legal ruling is understood?
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The questioner : Shaykh, may Allah bless you...
The Shaykh : No...
The questioner : ...as became clear from the words of the Shaykh al-Islam and Ibn al-Qayyim, that the claim that the speech of Allah is created is an invalidation of command and prohibition.
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : Because, for example, someone comes and says that we find things that are agreed upon to be created.
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : Meaning, a command or prohibition is understood from them, such as the setting of the sun, from which the entry of a time is understood.
The Shaykh : Hmm, this is a sign, may Allah bless you.
The questioner : They say this is a sign.
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : Just as we say.
The Shaykh : But this is a sign that the Shari'ah established by the tongue of the Shari'ah: when the sun sets, pray. But if... the sun sets, pray, would the setting of the sun be the cause for the prayer?
The questioner : No.
The Shaykh : This is it.
The questioner : Okay, also, they say this speech, the Qur'an, says this too: the Lawgiver made it a sign for a specific matter.
The Shaykh : No, He does not make it a sign. They say there is no command or prohibition; it is all created.
The questioner : We impose this on them to say it.
The Shaykh : No, no, we impose this on them. And the word I said: "Allah created Qaf, Lam, and what will it be, just as He created my hand with this characteristic, fingers... a tree." And what do we benefit from it? Say: He, the Exalted and Majestic, created it. Qaf, Lam, there is no command in it, and Allah did not say to us, for example, "If you see Qaf, it means I commanded you." If you see the Surah Qaf, what command is that, like a gesture? And also, if we suppose they said... okay, this command that... you committed to, you also say that it is created, and it will be...
The questioner : ...the human being is created, and his created speech.
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed
The questioner : And command and prohibition are understood from his speech.
The Shaykh : No, his speech is not understood from his pronunciation, from his pronunciation. But if, for example, a person comes and screams a scream not composed of letters, do you understand anything? Only that you understand, if, for example, he was struck or fell, you understand that it is for this reason.
The Shaykh : No...
The questioner : ...as became clear from the words of the Shaykh al-Islam and Ibn al-Qayyim, that the claim that the speech of Allah is created is an invalidation of command and prohibition.
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : Because, for example, someone comes and says that we find things that are agreed upon to be created.
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : Meaning, a command or prohibition is understood from them, such as the setting of the sun, from which the entry of a time is understood.
The Shaykh : Hmm, this is a sign, may Allah bless you.
The questioner : They say this is a sign.
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : Just as we say.
The Shaykh : But this is a sign that the Shari'ah established by the tongue of the Shari'ah: when the sun sets, pray. But if... the sun sets, pray, would the setting of the sun be the cause for the prayer?
The questioner : No.
The Shaykh : This is it.
The questioner : Okay, also, they say this speech, the Qur'an, says this too: the Lawgiver made it a sign for a specific matter.
The Shaykh : No, He does not make it a sign. They say there is no command or prohibition; it is all created.
The questioner : We impose this on them to say it.
The Shaykh : No, no, we impose this on them. And the word I said: "Allah created Qaf, Lam, and what will it be, just as He created my hand with this characteristic, fingers... a tree." And what do we benefit from it? Say: He, the Exalted and Majestic, created it. Qaf, Lam, there is no command in it, and Allah did not say to us, for example, "If you see Qaf, it means I commanded you." If you see the Surah Qaf, what command is that, like a gesture? And also, if we suppose they said... okay, this command that... you committed to, you also say that it is created, and it will be...
The questioner : ...the human being is created, and his created speech.
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed
The questioner : And command and prohibition are understood from his speech.
The Shaykh : No, his speech is not understood from his pronunciation, from his pronunciation. But if, for example, a person comes and screams a scream not composed of letters, do you understand anything? Only that you understand, if, for example, he was struck or fell, you understand that it is for this reason.