Questions about lost animals?
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The questioner : As for anything else, it may be ruined.
The Shaykh : As for anything else, the MessengerSahih al-Bukhari 2438.
The questioner : Not its owner ...
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed.
The questioner : For example, if it gets tired ...
The Shaykh : He slaughters it, meaning.
The questioner : Yes, even if ...
The Shaykh : Huh?
The questioner : I say it might stay and live ... camels get tired, and when they rest ...
The Shaykh : But Ali says camels can walk, eat, return to water, and eat trees, but this ...
The questioner : Like a sheep ...
The Shaykh : Yes, that is right.
The questioner : People come down to it
The Shaykh : In any case, what appears to me in this is that the principles require that if one can benefit from its meat, he slaughters it and benefits from its meat.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : If it is not possible, there is no harm in leaving it.
The questioner : Shaykh?
The Shaykh : Okay, but we still have to discuss a second issue: if someone finds it, does it belong to him?
The student: Other than camels ...
The Shaykh : Yes, other than camels.
The student: Yes, a found item, yes.
The Shaykh : And camels?
The student: ...
The Shaykh : The Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) was asked about a lost camel that is abandoned out of disinterest, abandoned out of disinterest. The scholars said that the finder owns it, whatever it is, whether it is a sheep, a camel, wood, or iron. Anything whose owner has abandoned it out of disinterest, and you know that he is disinterested in it, is yours. This branches out to cars that are hit on the roads: do they belong to the one who finds them?
The student: They are not left.
The Shaykh : Huh?
The student: They are not left.
The Shaykh : How are they not left?
The student: ...
The Shaykh : I mean that its owner does not let it run wild.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : ... It appears to me that if the impact is strong such that the car has nothing of benefit in it except its box and frame, its owner does not want it. If it is minor, it is known that its owner wants it.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Huh?
The student: Sometimes you see the car...
The Shaykh : Sometimes, meaning, you see the car is minor and it stays for a long time and no one comes for it. Yes, in any case, the rule in this is: if it is most likely that this was abandoned out of disinterest, it belongs to the one who finds it. Yes.
The questioner : Sometimes we do not know if its owner left it or if it is lost?
The Shaykh : Which one?
The questioner : This abandoned item, whether it is a camel, a sheep, or something else?
The Shaykh : If it is not most likely in your opinion that it was abandoned out of disinterest, leave it. If it is from camels, leave it. If it is from sheep, take it and consider it a lost item that you must announce for a year.
The questioner : Shaykh?
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : ... Is it most likely?
The Shaykh : What?
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : What?
The questioner : ... What is most likely for us is that it is ruined, like a car, for example. It is most likely that it is ruined, so a person came ...
The Shaykh : Yes, this is our issue. If it is most likely in our opinion that its owner left it ... take from it whatever you want.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : It is possible that even if the camel he let go is taken, and later it fattens up, its owner comes and says he did not abandon it out of disinterest. The important thing is: if you find indications that this thing is disinterested in, yes, it belongs to the one who finds it, yes?
The questioner : ... about selling it
The Shaykh : We have not reached that, wait a little ... if Allah wills, yes, Khalid?
The questioner : Why do we not say that taking riba profits is permissible and spending them in charitable interests ..
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : It combines the consideration and the considered.
The Shaykh : In the first place, the bank is not a consideration for the profit from my money, because my money may profit and may not. He may give me this money and trade with it and lose, unlike this, for in reality we have not profited from my money to say, he wanted to give me a consideration for his benefit from my money only, and it may be harmful to him.
The Shaykh : As for anything else, the Messenger
It is for you, for your brother, or for the wolf.
إما لك أو لأخيك أو للذّئبThe questioner : Not its owner ...
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed.
The questioner : For example, if it gets tired ...
The Shaykh : He slaughters it, meaning.
The questioner : Yes, even if ...
The Shaykh : Huh?
The questioner : I say it might stay and live ... camels get tired, and when they rest ...
The Shaykh : But Ali says camels can walk, eat, return to water, and eat trees, but this ...
The questioner : Like a sheep ...
The Shaykh : Yes, that is right.
The questioner : People come down to it
The Shaykh : In any case, what appears to me in this is that the principles require that if one can benefit from its meat, he slaughters it and benefits from its meat.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : If it is not possible, there is no harm in leaving it.
The questioner : Shaykh?
The Shaykh : Okay, but we still have to discuss a second issue: if someone finds it, does it belong to him?
The student: Other than camels ...
The Shaykh : Yes, other than camels.
The student: Yes, a found item, yes.
The Shaykh : And camels?
The student: ...
The Shaykh : The Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) was asked about a lost camel that is abandoned out of disinterest, abandoned out of disinterest. The scholars said that the finder owns it, whatever it is, whether it is a sheep, a camel, wood, or iron. Anything whose owner has abandoned it out of disinterest, and you know that he is disinterested in it, is yours. This branches out to cars that are hit on the roads: do they belong to the one who finds them?
The student: They are not left.
The Shaykh : Huh?
The student: They are not left.
The Shaykh : How are they not left?
The student: ...
The Shaykh : I mean that its owner does not let it run wild.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : ... It appears to me that if the impact is strong such that the car has nothing of benefit in it except its box and frame, its owner does not want it. If it is minor, it is known that its owner wants it.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : Huh?
The student: Sometimes you see the car...
The Shaykh : Sometimes, meaning, you see the car is minor and it stays for a long time and no one comes for it. Yes, in any case, the rule in this is: if it is most likely that this was abandoned out of disinterest, it belongs to the one who finds it. Yes.
The questioner : Sometimes we do not know if its owner left it or if it is lost?
The Shaykh : Which one?
The questioner : This abandoned item, whether it is a camel, a sheep, or something else?
The Shaykh : If it is not most likely in your opinion that it was abandoned out of disinterest, leave it. If it is from camels, leave it. If it is from sheep, take it and consider it a lost item that you must announce for a year.
The questioner : Shaykh?
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : ... Is it most likely?
The Shaykh : What?
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : What?
The questioner : ... What is most likely for us is that it is ruined, like a car, for example. It is most likely that it is ruined, so a person came ...
The Shaykh : Yes, this is our issue. If it is most likely in our opinion that its owner left it ... take from it whatever you want.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : It is possible that even if the camel he let go is taken, and later it fattens up, its owner comes and says he did not abandon it out of disinterest. The important thing is: if you find indications that this thing is disinterested in, yes, it belongs to the one who finds it, yes?
The questioner : ... about selling it
The Shaykh : We have not reached that, wait a little ... if Allah wills, yes, Khalid?
The questioner : Why do we not say that taking riba profits is permissible and spending them in charitable interests ..
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : It combines the consideration and the considered.
The Shaykh : In the first place, the bank is not a consideration for the profit from my money, because my money may profit and may not. He may give me this money and trade with it and lose, unlike this, for in reality we have not profited from my money to say, he wanted to give me a consideration for his benefit from my money only, and it may be harmful to him.