What is the difference between the Khawarij and the Mu'tazilah?
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The questioner : The Mu'tazilah hold that the perpetrator of a major sin will remain in the Fire eternally.
The Shaykh : A major sin.
The questioner : Or a major sin, so what is the difference between them and the Khawarij?
The Shaykh : The Khawarij assert that he is a disbeliever, so they do not wash him, do not shroud him, and do not pray over him. As for these people, they say, "No, his ruling from the perspective of the apparent ruling is that he is a Muslim, but we do not say he is a Muslim, nor do we say he is a disbeliever."
The questioner : And he is eternally in the Fire.
The Shaykh : And he is eternally in the Fire, so the punishment is the same for these people and for those people. For this reason, they are called the Wa'idiyah.
Yes, three.
The Shaykh : A major sin.
The questioner : Or a major sin, so what is the difference between them and the Khawarij?
The Shaykh : The Khawarij assert that he is a disbeliever, so they do not wash him, do not shroud him, and do not pray over him. As for these people, they say, "No, his ruling from the perspective of the apparent ruling is that he is a Muslim, but we do not say he is a Muslim, nor do we say he is a disbeliever."
The questioner : And he is eternally in the Fire.
The Shaykh : And he is eternally in the Fire, so the punishment is the same for these people and for those people. For this reason, they are called the Wa'idiyah.
Yes, three.