Explanation of the Book of the Beginning of Revelation, Faith, and Knowledge-10a
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The reader: Al-Makki ibn Ibrahim narrated to us, saying: Hanzalah ibn Abi Sufyan informed us from Salim, who said: I heard Abu Hurayrah from the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) that he said: Sahih al-Bukhari 85.
The Shaykh : This is a gesture in the statement: "He said: Like this," and he moved his hand as if he meant killing. The Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) did not say "killing," but I think that in another narration it was explicitly stated to be killing, and perhaps he combined the two. The explanation is with you.
The student: "He moved it," O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Yes
The reader: Regarding the phrase "he moved it," the *fa* is explanatory, as if the narrator indicated that the gesture was distorted. The phrase "as if he meant killing" suggests that this was understood from the distortion of the hand and its movement, like that of a striker. However, I have not seen this addition in most narrations, and it seems to be an interpretation by the narrator from Hanzalah. Abu Awana narrated it from Abbas al-Duri from Abu Asim from Hanzalah, and at the end he said: "Abu Asim showed us, as if he were striking the neck of a person." Al-Kirmani said that al-haraj is fitnah (trial, discord or temptation), and that the intention of killing is from its wording by way of hyperbole, since it is a necessary consequence of the meaning of al-haraj. He said: "Unless it is established that al-haraj is used in the language to mean killing." I say: This is an oversight of what is in al-Bukhari in the Book of Trials and al-Haraj, where al-haraj is defined as killing in the language of the Abyssinians. The rest of the discussions of this hadith will come there, if Allah wills.
The Shaykh : Praise be to Allah. This narration explicitly states that al-haraj is killing. So it seems that the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) combined the gesture and the expression, if it is the same incident. Yes.
(Religious) knowledge will be taken away (by the death of religious scholars) ignorance (in religion) and afflictions will appear; and Harj will increase." It was asked, "What is Harj, O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)?" He replied by beckoning with his hand indicating "killing."
يقبض العلم ويظهر الجهل والفتن ويكثر الهرج قيل يا رسول الله وما الهرج فقال: هكذا بيده فحركها فحرفها كأنه يريد القتلThe Shaykh : This is a gesture in the statement: "He said: Like this," and he moved his hand as if he meant killing. The Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) did not say "killing," but I think that in another narration it was explicitly stated to be killing, and perhaps he combined the two. The explanation is with you.
The student: "He moved it," O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Yes
The reader: Regarding the phrase "he moved it," the *fa* is explanatory, as if the narrator indicated that the gesture was distorted. The phrase "as if he meant killing" suggests that this was understood from the distortion of the hand and its movement, like that of a striker. However, I have not seen this addition in most narrations, and it seems to be an interpretation by the narrator from Hanzalah. Abu Awana narrated it from Abbas al-Duri from Abu Asim from Hanzalah, and at the end he said: "Abu Asim showed us, as if he were striking the neck of a person." Al-Kirmani said that al-haraj is fitnah (trial, discord or temptation), and that the intention of killing is from its wording by way of hyperbole, since it is a necessary consequence of the meaning of al-haraj. He said: "Unless it is established that al-haraj is used in the language to mean killing." I say: This is an oversight of what is in al-Bukhari in the Book of Trials and al-Haraj, where al-haraj is defined as killing in the language of the Abyssinians. The rest of the discussions of this hadith will come there, if Allah wills.
The Shaykh : Praise be to Allah. This narration explicitly states that al-haraj is killing. So it seems that the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) combined the gesture and the expression, if it is the same incident. Yes.