Explanation of the author's statement: And Muslim, from Ibn Mas'ud, that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said: "Perished are the extremists." He said it three times.
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The Shaykh : He said: "And Muslim, from Ibn Mas'ud (may Allah be pleased with him), said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said: ".
The meaning of *al-mutanati'* is one who is overly deep or convoluted in speech or in actions. Yes. In speech or in all actions, whether in actions or in words. So the *mutanati'* is the one who is overly elaborate and convoluted, yes, in speech or in actions, in saying or in doing. This person is perishing, even in ordinary, customary speech. It is not befitting for a person to be overly elaborate, deep, or convoluted. Some people are in this state, to the point that their depth and extremism are often accompanied by self-admiration. In most cases, it is accompanied by self-admiration, and it may be accompanied by arrogance. You find that when he speaks, he speaks with his nose; you greet him and you hear the reply from his nose, and so on.
Extremism in actions can also lead to self-admiration and arrogance. For this reason, he said:. Extremism in religious matters is similar to *ghuluw* (exaggeration) in them, so it is also a cause of perishing. These three hadiths all indicate what? They indicate the prohibition of *ghuluw* and that it is a cause of perishing, and that it is obligatory for the servant to proceed to Allah with the middle religion, between two extremes. Just as this Ummah is the middle and its religion is the middle, its conduct in its religion should be on the middle path between excess and deficiency.
The student: Extremism in religion.
The Shaykh : Yes?
The student: Extremism in religion.
The Shaykh : Extremism in religion is *ghuluw* in it, as we mentioned a moment ago, whether in beliefs, actions, or acts of worship.
The student: ... *ghuluw* is restricted to religion ... .
The Shaykh : ... .
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : ... .
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : Huh?
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : ... .
The student: These people ... .
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : In any case, the confirmed perishing is not in religion, but perishing in transactions is a cause, because as you saw now, these extremists who exaggerate in acts of worship ... their exaggeration led them to forbid what Allah has made lawful. Yes.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : Huh?
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : Transactions are originally from customs, but for them to be in this manner or that manner, like eating and drinking and the like, their origin is nature ... the natural disposition. But for it to be with the right hand, and for us to mention the name of Allah upon it and praise Him upon it, that is from acts of worship.
The student: Buying and selling.
The Shaykh : Yes, buying and selling are originally a custom, not an act of worship. Yes?
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : What do you mean? *Israf* (wastefulness) you mean?
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : *Israf*, do you mean?
The student: No, *ghuluw* in ... .
The Shaykh : Ah, you mean being strict in them, being strict in them. Yes, this is also *ghuluw*, being strict in them without a basis. But if there is a basis, there is no harm; he takes the basis. But without a basis, this is not permissible. For this reason, the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) had ease in this matter ... he ate with them and ate from the sheep that the Jewish woman had prepared for him, and he did not investigate or ask. And so it should be for a person, except for what is originally forbidden, then he should ask about it. Yes.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : ... and the person did not feel at ease with it.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : He leaves it; there is no harm in that.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : As long as there is no basis.
Now, some people say to you, how is it that cheese is forbidden, milk is forbidden, and everything coming from the Christians is forbidden.
The student: Some people say cheese ... .
The Shaykh : Cheese, cheese. Who says that, and what is the basis? What is the basis for it?
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : No. The original ruling is permissibility. The original ruling is permissibility.
The student: Yes, indeed.
The Shaykh : The Companions (may Allah be pleased with them) used to eat cheeses, even though they contained ... carrion.
... carrion is impure according to most scholars, yet they ate them and did not ask, and it is ... forbidden.
The student: ... scrupulousness.
The Shaykh : Scrupulousness, if it has a basis, then there is no harm with it, and the person is not blamed for it. But if it has no basis and is merely rumors, this is not beneficial. However, the issue of meats has seen a lot of talk and delving ... to others, out of scrupulousness; there is no harm. I hope it is not *ghuluw*.
The student: ... O Shaykh ... .
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : What, there is no harm, there is no harm.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : There is no obstacle.
The student: Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: Those who speak about scientific miracles ... .
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: Is it *ghuluw*? ... .
The Shaykh : What, this is also, if the indication from the Qur'an is clear and evident, there is no harm, because it is what calls for entering the religion of Allah and acknowledging the Qur'an. But if the indication in the verse is forced and ... arguing with theories, this is not permissible, because theories may change one day.
The student: Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : ... .
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : Strange.
The student: Yes, indeed.
The Shaykh : ... .
The student: ... modern canned goods, these ... .
The Shaykh : ... .
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : ... .
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : What, yes, these .... For this reason, the Shaykh al-Islam in *al-Ikhtiyarat* says: "Whoever refrains from eating canned goods without a Sharia reason is one who commits *ghuluw*[Al-A'raf 7:32]".
The overzealous have perished
هلك المتنطعونThe meaning of *al-mutanati'* is one who is overly deep or convoluted in speech or in actions. Yes. In speech or in all actions, whether in actions or in words. So the *mutanati'* is the one who is overly elaborate and convoluted, yes, in speech or in actions, in saying or in doing. This person is perishing, even in ordinary, customary speech. It is not befitting for a person to be overly elaborate, deep, or convoluted. Some people are in this state, to the point that their depth and extremism are often accompanied by self-admiration. In most cases, it is accompanied by self-admiration, and it may be accompanied by arrogance. You find that when he speaks, he speaks with his nose; you greet him and you hear the reply from his nose, and so on.
Extremism in actions can also lead to self-admiration and arrogance. For this reason, he said:
The overzealous have perished
هلك المتنطعونThe student: Extremism in religion.
The Shaykh : Yes?
The student: Extremism in religion.
The Shaykh : Extremism in religion is *ghuluw* in it, as we mentioned a moment ago, whether in beliefs, actions, or acts of worship.
The student: ... *ghuluw* is restricted to religion ... .
The Shaykh : ... .
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : ... .
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : Huh?
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : ... .
The student: These people ... .
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : In any case, the confirmed perishing is not in religion, but perishing in transactions is a cause, because as you saw now, these extremists who exaggerate in acts of worship ... their exaggeration led them to forbid what Allah has made lawful. Yes.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : Huh?
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : Transactions are originally from customs, but for them to be in this manner or that manner, like eating and drinking and the like, their origin is nature ... the natural disposition. But for it to be with the right hand, and for us to mention the name of Allah upon it and praise Him upon it, that is from acts of worship.
The student: Buying and selling.
The Shaykh : Yes, buying and selling are originally a custom, not an act of worship. Yes?
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : What do you mean? *Israf* (wastefulness) you mean?
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : *Israf*, do you mean?
The student: No, *ghuluw* in ... .
The Shaykh : Ah, you mean being strict in them, being strict in them. Yes, this is also *ghuluw*, being strict in them without a basis. But if there is a basis, there is no harm; he takes the basis. But without a basis, this is not permissible. For this reason, the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) had ease in this matter ... he ate with them and ate from the sheep that the Jewish woman had prepared for him, and he did not investigate or ask. And so it should be for a person, except for what is originally forbidden, then he should ask about it. Yes.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : ... and the person did not feel at ease with it.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : He leaves it; there is no harm in that.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : As long as there is no basis.
Now, some people say to you, how is it that cheese is forbidden, milk is forbidden, and everything coming from the Christians is forbidden.
The student: Some people say cheese ... .
The Shaykh : Cheese, cheese. Who says that, and what is the basis? What is the basis for it?
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : No. The original ruling is permissibility. The original ruling is permissibility.
The student: Yes, indeed.
The Shaykh : The Companions (may Allah be pleased with them) used to eat cheeses, even though they contained ... carrion.
... carrion is impure according to most scholars, yet they ate them and did not ask, and it is ... forbidden.
The student: ... scrupulousness.
The Shaykh : Scrupulousness, if it has a basis, then there is no harm with it, and the person is not blamed for it. But if it has no basis and is merely rumors, this is not beneficial. However, the issue of meats has seen a lot of talk and delving ... to others, out of scrupulousness; there is no harm. I hope it is not *ghuluw*.
The student: ... O Shaykh ... .
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : What, there is no harm, there is no harm.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : There is no obstacle.
The student: Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: Those who speak about scientific miracles ... .
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: Is it *ghuluw*? ... .
The Shaykh : What, this is also, if the indication from the Qur'an is clear and evident, there is no harm, because it is what calls for entering the religion of Allah and acknowledging the Qur'an. But if the indication in the verse is forced and ... arguing with theories, this is not permissible, because theories may change one day.
The student: Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : ... .
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : Strange.
The student: Yes, indeed.
The Shaykh : ... .
The student: ... modern canned goods, these ... .
The Shaykh : ... .
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : ... .
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : What, yes, these .... For this reason, the Shaykh al-Islam in *al-Ikhtiyarat* says: "Whoever refrains from eating canned goods without a Sharia reason is one who commits *ghuluw*