Regarding the narrator, if he has not been graded as trustworthy and has not been criticized, and the trustworthy narrators have narrated from him, which is stronger: if he is supported by other narrations, or if he is not contradicted?
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The questioner : ...If he is not contradicted, which is more, meaning which is stronger in this matter?
The Shaykh : Which is stronger?
The student : Trustworthy... What is the strength? You, may Allah preserve you, take it absolutely, meaning... naturally after the conditions...
Another student: More than trustworthy.
The Shaykh : Which of the two you mentioned is the first one?
The questioner : The one in whom no criticism or vindication has been established, and more than one trustworthy narrator has narrated from him.
The Shaykh : Meaning he has not been graded as trustworthy and has not been criticized.
The questioner : But more than one trustworthy narrator has narrated from him.
The Shaykh : And more than one has narrated from him, this first one and the second?
The questioner : Not the second, may Allah preserve you, you provide details like what I mentioned...
The Shaykh : Ah, okay, okay.
The questioner : Some of the early scholars say: if he is supported. And some of the contemporary scholars say to you: if he is not contradicted, meaning the additional condition. So which is more precise? Naturally, not according to your condition, which is more precise, O Shaykh, meaning if he is supported or if he is not contradicted?
The Shaykh : I do not know that it is with the description you mentioned, meaning a narrator who has not been criticized and has not been graded as trustworthy, and a group of trustworthy narrators have narrated from him.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Ah, you say that some scholars say.
The questioner : Ibn Hajar suspends judgment on him.
The Shaykh : This is not relied upon except if he is supported.
The questioner : If he is supported, that is good.
The Shaykh : I know that Ibn Hajar says in al-Taqrib.
The questioner: Correct.
The Shaykh : He says "truthful" in dozens of Muslims he has... I lean toward this.
The questioner : No, no, but the precision of the wording, meaning which is stronger: if he is supported or if he is not contradicted.
The Shaykh : I say I do not know that the Hafiz says in such a case.
The questioner : No, no, it is not that the Hafiz said. If he is supported or if he is not contradicted, meaning hypothetically, if such a case came and we wanted to prefer one, if he is supported or if he is not contradicted, which is stronger? Meaning if he is not contradicted, he becomes like a trustworthy narrator, but if he is supported, he becomes stronger, and perhaps you... this hadith...
The Shaykh : But the important thing is, if he is not supported, what is his ruling?
The questioner : No, that is another research, that is separate, that is another thing. I saw some contemporary scholars write "if," I saw Ali Rida write this statement, he said "if," meaning on the condition that he is not contradicted.
The Shaykh : Okay, the hasan hadith, if it is contradicted by a stronger one, it is left.
The questioner : Correct, valid.
The Shaykh : Okay, so this, if it is contradicted, is left a fortiori.
The student : How if he is supported.
The Shaykh : But the research, may Allah reward you, is valuable, is to remove this scope from the question.
The questioner : Shaykh, the practical example of Ibn Hajar, as you mentioned, may Allah preserve you, but he mentioned in the notes that he suspends judgment on such narrators, in the notes he mentioned, in the notes on Ibn al-Salah, but only.
The Shaykh : But he does not adopt this for every narrator who has this description.
The questioner: Correct.
The Shaykh : This is, meaning there may be an excuse regarding - and upon you be peace, mercy of Allah, and blessings - the scientific deviation due to misunderstanding... but there is no moral deviation, but there may be one who lies, and lying is forbidden, and fabrication is forbidden, and slander is forbidden, and so on, and yet you find that Muslims, perhaps some of the disbelievers are better than them from this angle.
The student : You are correct.
The Shaykh : From this angle... I say, I told this Tablighi, I said there is no harm...
The Shaykh : Which is stronger?
The student : Trustworthy... What is the strength? You, may Allah preserve you, take it absolutely, meaning... naturally after the conditions...
Another student: More than trustworthy.
The Shaykh : Which of the two you mentioned is the first one?
The questioner : The one in whom no criticism or vindication has been established, and more than one trustworthy narrator has narrated from him.
The Shaykh : Meaning he has not been graded as trustworthy and has not been criticized.
The questioner : But more than one trustworthy narrator has narrated from him.
The Shaykh : And more than one has narrated from him, this first one and the second?
The questioner : Not the second, may Allah preserve you, you provide details like what I mentioned...
The Shaykh : Ah, okay, okay.
The questioner : Some of the early scholars say: if he is supported. And some of the contemporary scholars say to you: if he is not contradicted, meaning the additional condition. So which is more precise? Naturally, not according to your condition, which is more precise, O Shaykh, meaning if he is supported or if he is not contradicted?
The Shaykh : I do not know that it is with the description you mentioned, meaning a narrator who has not been criticized and has not been graded as trustworthy, and a group of trustworthy narrators have narrated from him.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Ah, you say that some scholars say.
The questioner : Ibn Hajar suspends judgment on him.
The Shaykh : This is not relied upon except if he is supported.
The questioner : If he is supported, that is good.
The Shaykh : I know that Ibn Hajar says in al-Taqrib.
The questioner: Correct.
The Shaykh : He says "truthful" in dozens of Muslims he has... I lean toward this.
The questioner : No, no, but the precision of the wording, meaning which is stronger: if he is supported or if he is not contradicted.
The Shaykh : I say I do not know that the Hafiz says in such a case.
The questioner : No, no, it is not that the Hafiz said. If he is supported or if he is not contradicted, meaning hypothetically, if such a case came and we wanted to prefer one, if he is supported or if he is not contradicted, which is stronger? Meaning if he is not contradicted, he becomes like a trustworthy narrator, but if he is supported, he becomes stronger, and perhaps you... this hadith...
The Shaykh : But the important thing is, if he is not supported, what is his ruling?
The questioner : No, that is another research, that is separate, that is another thing. I saw some contemporary scholars write "if," I saw Ali Rida write this statement, he said "if," meaning on the condition that he is not contradicted.
The Shaykh : Okay, the hasan hadith, if it is contradicted by a stronger one, it is left.
The questioner : Correct, valid.
The Shaykh : Okay, so this, if it is contradicted, is left a fortiori.
The student : How if he is supported.
The Shaykh : But the research, may Allah reward you, is valuable, is to remove this scope from the question.
The questioner : Shaykh, the practical example of Ibn Hajar, as you mentioned, may Allah preserve you, but he mentioned in the notes that he suspends judgment on such narrators, in the notes he mentioned, in the notes on Ibn al-Salah, but only.
The Shaykh : But he does not adopt this for every narrator who has this description.
The questioner: Correct.
The Shaykh : This is, meaning there may be an excuse regarding - and upon you be peace, mercy of Allah, and blessings - the scientific deviation due to misunderstanding... but there is no moral deviation, but there may be one who lies, and lying is forbidden, and fabrication is forbidden, and slander is forbidden, and so on, and yet you find that Muslims, perhaps some of the disbelievers are better than them from this angle.
The student : You are correct.
The Shaykh : From this angle... I say, I told this Tablighi, I said there is no harm...
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