Continuation of the explanation of the author's statement: "And part of faith in Allah and His books is the belief that the Qur'an is the speech of Allah, revealed, not created, from Him it began and to Him it returns, and that Allah spoke with it in reality, and that this Qur'an which He revealed to Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) is the speech of Allah in reality, not the speech of anyone else. It is not permissible to state that it is a narration of the speech of Allah or an expression of it."
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The student: The Kalbiyyah.
The Shaykh : Yes, the Kalbiyyah. The speech is sequential, yes? Is that clear?
The student: It is clear.
The Shaykh : For example, "Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim," which comes first? The "ba" or the "mim" in "al-Rahim"?
They said: If it is sequential, it means it is an occurrence, and occurrences have happened to Allah (Mighty and Majestic). It has been established that this statement is false, and that the existence of occurrences does not necessitate that the one in whom these occurrences exist is an occurrence. Okay.
The student: The statement "expression," for example, which you mentioned.
The Shaykh : How? I say that some said: there is no difference. And some said it is a narration that Allah creates sounds, He creates sounds, and Jibril hears them and narrates these sounds. And those who said "expression" said: Jibril understood the meaning that subsists in Allah (Mighty and Majestic) without speech, just as a person understands the intention of one who points with his finger, so he expresses what this indication requires.
The Shaykh : Yes, the Kalbiyyah. The speech is sequential, yes? Is that clear?
The student: It is clear.
The Shaykh : For example, "Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim," which comes first? The "ba" or the "mim" in "al-Rahim"?
They said: If it is sequential, it means it is an occurrence, and occurrences have happened to Allah (Mighty and Majestic). It has been established that this statement is false, and that the existence of occurrences does not necessitate that the one in whom these occurrences exist is an occurrence. Okay.
The student: The statement "expression," for example, which you mentioned.
The Shaykh : How? I say that some said: there is no difference. And some said it is a narration that Allah creates sounds, He creates sounds, and Jibril hears them and narrates these sounds. And those who said "expression" said: Jibril understood the meaning that subsists in Allah (Mighty and Majestic) without speech, just as a person understands the intention of one who points with his finger, so he expresses what this indication requires.