Explanation of the author's statement: "… from the navel to the knee …".
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The Shaykh : He said "from the navel to the knee". This phrase undoubtedly excludes the navel, but does it include the knee?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : We passed through the chapter on lending, regarding the amount between one dirham and ten. How much is obligatory? According to the madhhab, it is nine. According to the madhhab, it is nine. So they include what comes after "if," because they say the limit is excluded if the beginning of the limit is present. That is, if I say "from" to "to," but if it is not present, the limit is excluded. So here, it is between the navel and the knee.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : It is excluded. The knee is excluded. This is not according to the madhhab, but according to the author's statement, according to the rule.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : No, yes, you did well. Okay, I calculate it as saying "between the navel." Okay, "from the navel to the knee." So the navel is not included because it is outside the limit, and the knee is included according to the author's statement. This is one of the two opinions in the issue that the knee is part of the 'awrah. And on this basis, the covering must extend below the knee. Yes.
The second opinion is that the navel and the knee are included, so the navel must be covered and the knee must be covered.
The third opinion, which is the well-known one in the madhhab, is that the navel and the knee are not included. And on this basis, the phrase that excludes them is to say "between the navel and the knee," in order to exclude the navel and the knee, and that is the case.
But some scholars see that the thigh is not 'awrah. But we may not be able to discuss it. Yes?
The questioner : The Shaykh's statement that the 'awrah includes the knee.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : … the free woman.
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed.
The questioner : Her entire body is 'awrah except her face.
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed.
The questioner : What is it…?
The Shaykh : This book is for you. Is it sufficient for the answer? Yes?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Wait, wait. No, it is not sufficient for the answer.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Now, the author's statement. No, but we haven't reached it yet, you see. We haven't reached it in the author's statement. Yes.
The questioner : … in the language of the East.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : So it is possible that some… it is possible that some, this is not possible, some is not possible. And what do we say, half? No.
The questioner : … Ibn Hazm's statement in prayer. No… 'awrah…
The Shaykh : Like the free woman. It will come to us, if Allah wills, in the chapter on the free woman, where we will see the issue. Yes?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : We passed through the chapter on lending, regarding the amount between one dirham and ten. How much is obligatory? According to the madhhab, it is nine. According to the madhhab, it is nine. So they include what comes after "if," because they say the limit is excluded if the beginning of the limit is present. That is, if I say "from" to "to," but if it is not present, the limit is excluded. So here, it is between the navel and the knee.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : It is excluded. The knee is excluded. This is not according to the madhhab, but according to the author's statement, according to the rule.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : No, yes, you did well. Okay, I calculate it as saying "between the navel." Okay, "from the navel to the knee." So the navel is not included because it is outside the limit, and the knee is included according to the author's statement. This is one of the two opinions in the issue that the knee is part of the 'awrah. And on this basis, the covering must extend below the knee. Yes.
The second opinion is that the navel and the knee are included, so the navel must be covered and the knee must be covered.
The third opinion, which is the well-known one in the madhhab, is that the navel and the knee are not included. And on this basis, the phrase that excludes them is to say "between the navel and the knee," in order to exclude the navel and the knee, and that is the case.
But some scholars see that the thigh is not 'awrah. But we may not be able to discuss it. Yes?
The questioner : The Shaykh's statement that the 'awrah includes the knee.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : … the free woman.
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed.
The questioner : Her entire body is 'awrah except her face.
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed.
The questioner : What is it…?
The Shaykh : This book is for you. Is it sufficient for the answer? Yes?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Wait, wait. No, it is not sufficient for the answer.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Now, the author's statement. No, but we haven't reached it yet, you see. We haven't reached it in the author's statement. Yes.
The questioner : … in the language of the East.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : So it is possible that some… it is possible that some, this is not possible, some is not possible. And what do we say, half? No.
The questioner : … Ibn Hazm's statement in prayer. No… 'awrah…
The Shaykh : Like the free woman. It will come to us, if Allah wills, in the chapter on the free woman, where we will see the issue. Yes?