The discussion regarding the amount of zakah on grains and fruits.
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The Shaykh : When is the tenth obligatory on grains and fruits?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : If it is watered without expense.
The questioner : If it is without expense.
The Shaykh : If it is without expense, what does that mean?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : It means if it is watered without expense, right?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Without expense, okay, what do you say about what is extracted by machines?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : With expense? How much is in it?
The questioner : Half of the tenth.
The Shaykh : Half of the tenth, and what do you say about what is watered by the central... I mean, we dug a well and water appeared, so we started watering the land from it?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Half of the tenth, do you understand the question, good? We dug an artesian well and the water started flowing out as a spring, and we water the land with it, three-quarters? Why?
The questioner : Because this falls under...
The Shaykh : Does it fall under with expense or without expense, at the time of watering, is there an expense?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : But at the time of watering now, I, the farmer, just release the water.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Okay, is digging with expense? Okay, is cutting a channel or stream from the river with expense or without expense?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Cutting a stream from the river? How does it need workers, surveyors, and clearing the path?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : ... .
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : And the water is in the ground?
The questioner : ... not visible.
The Shaykh : But it is present.
The questioner : It just needs...
The Shaykh : The most that happens is we dug it and it came out.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Who said this distinction between what is irrigated and what is not irrigated?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : I did not verify it, okay, what do you say, oh...?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : It is watered without expense, because the criterion is the watering, not the extraction of the water. For this reason, if one digs a channel from the river to his land and the water is distributed, it is without expense. Likewise, the one who drives pipes into the ground and the water comes out as a spring, the watering is without expense. For this reason, the author said "what is watered without expense" and did not say "what does not require expense to extract the water." Here now, the expense is cut off; we dug and it was done, and everything is finished. So, digging the well is like opening the path for the water from the river to the land, unlike machines. Machines operate such that not a drop of water goes without expense. Okay, if it is watered with expense for half the year and without expense for half the year, brother?
The questioner : Half the year with expense?
The Shaykh : Half the year with expense, six months with expense and six months without expense, so what is obligatory?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Six months exactly.
The questioner : With expense?
The Shaykh : Six and six.
The questioner : The tenth.
The Shaykh : The tenth? How much?
The questioner : Three-quarters.
The Shaykh : Three-quarters of the tenth, okay, if it is uneven, eight months and four months.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : ... what? Benefit? I want someone else, but one who does not contradict. If we do not know?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : The tenth, why? Bandar?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Because it is more cautious, and following caution is required. So now, we do not know that it was watered without expense, and we do not know that it was watered with expense, and what was watered with expense and otherwise is equal, and what was watered with expense and otherwise is uneven. These are four things.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : No, the ignorance is in this last section. So, if we know that it is without expense, it is the tenth; or with expense, then half of it; or uneven, then by the one with more benefit; or uneven and we do not know which has more benefit, then the tenth. Okay, or equal, then three-quarters of the tenth. Okay, come on, the wisdom of Allah, what does the author's statement mean: "And the tenth is obligatory on the tenant of the land, not the owner".
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : The scenario of the issue.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : He rented a land and planted it, so the tenth is on him, not on the owner, because he is the owner of the crop, complete. Okay, is there zakah on honey? ...
The questioner : They differed... 'Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) took the tenth from them. Some said it was ijtihad, and some said it was zakah. They analogized it to what comes out of the ground, so the tenth is in it because it is without expense. The madhhab is that there is zakah in it.
The Shaykh : The madhhab is that zakah is obligatory in it, if it reaches?
The questioner : One hundred and sixty pounds.
The Shaykh : One hundred and sixty Iraqi pounds, this is the nisab according to them, and there is disagreement on the nisab. And the stronger position, Bandar?
The questioner : The correct view is that there is no zakah.
The Shaykh : The correct view is that there is no zakah in it, and that 'Umar only took it by way of caution, or by way of protecting the honeycomb areas, and it is not obligatory. Because if this were obligatory, it would have become well-known and clarified in the Sunnah with a clear explanation.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : If it is watered without expense.
The questioner : If it is without expense.
The Shaykh : If it is without expense, what does that mean?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : It means if it is watered without expense, right?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Without expense, okay, what do you say about what is extracted by machines?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : With expense? How much is in it?
The questioner : Half of the tenth.
The Shaykh : Half of the tenth, and what do you say about what is watered by the central... I mean, we dug a well and water appeared, so we started watering the land from it?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Half of the tenth, do you understand the question, good? We dug an artesian well and the water started flowing out as a spring, and we water the land with it, three-quarters? Why?
The questioner : Because this falls under...
The Shaykh : Does it fall under with expense or without expense, at the time of watering, is there an expense?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : But at the time of watering now, I, the farmer, just release the water.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Okay, is digging with expense? Okay, is cutting a channel or stream from the river with expense or without expense?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Cutting a stream from the river? How does it need workers, surveyors, and clearing the path?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : ... .
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : And the water is in the ground?
The questioner : ... not visible.
The Shaykh : But it is present.
The questioner : It just needs...
The Shaykh : The most that happens is we dug it and it came out.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Who said this distinction between what is irrigated and what is not irrigated?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : I did not verify it, okay, what do you say, oh...?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : It is watered without expense, because the criterion is the watering, not the extraction of the water. For this reason, if one digs a channel from the river to his land and the water is distributed, it is without expense. Likewise, the one who drives pipes into the ground and the water comes out as a spring, the watering is without expense. For this reason, the author said "what is watered without expense" and did not say "what does not require expense to extract the water." Here now, the expense is cut off; we dug and it was done, and everything is finished. So, digging the well is like opening the path for the water from the river to the land, unlike machines. Machines operate such that not a drop of water goes without expense. Okay, if it is watered with expense for half the year and without expense for half the year, brother?
The questioner : Half the year with expense?
The Shaykh : Half the year with expense, six months with expense and six months without expense, so what is obligatory?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Six months exactly.
The questioner : With expense?
The Shaykh : Six and six.
The questioner : The tenth.
The Shaykh : The tenth? How much?
The questioner : Three-quarters.
The Shaykh : Three-quarters of the tenth, okay, if it is uneven, eight months and four months.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : ... what? Benefit? I want someone else, but one who does not contradict. If we do not know?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : The tenth, why? Bandar?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Because it is more cautious, and following caution is required. So now, we do not know that it was watered without expense, and we do not know that it was watered with expense, and what was watered with expense and otherwise is equal, and what was watered with expense and otherwise is uneven. These are four things.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : No, the ignorance is in this last section. So, if we know that it is without expense, it is the tenth; or with expense, then half of it; or uneven, then by the one with more benefit; or uneven and we do not know which has more benefit, then the tenth. Okay, or equal, then three-quarters of the tenth. Okay, come on, the wisdom of Allah, what does the author's statement mean: "And the tenth is obligatory on the tenant of the land, not the owner".
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : The scenario of the issue.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : He rented a land and planted it, so the tenth is on him, not on the owner, because he is the owner of the crop, complete. Okay, is there zakah on honey? ...
The questioner : They differed... 'Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) took the tenth from them. Some said it was ijtihad, and some said it was zakah. They analogized it to what comes out of the ground, so the tenth is in it because it is without expense. The madhhab is that there is zakah in it.
The Shaykh : The madhhab is that zakah is obligatory in it, if it reaches?
The questioner : One hundred and sixty pounds.
The Shaykh : One hundred and sixty Iraqi pounds, this is the nisab according to them, and there is disagreement on the nisab. And the stronger position, Bandar?
The questioner : The correct view is that there is no zakah.
The Shaykh : The correct view is that there is no zakah in it, and that 'Umar only took it by way of caution, or by way of protecting the honeycomb areas, and it is not obligatory. Because if this were obligatory, it would have become well-known and clarified in the Sunnah with a clear explanation.