We mentioned in his saying (peace and blessings be upon him) (or he gives him permission...) regarding a specific person; does this constitute a concession to anyone?
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The questioner : May Allah reward you. We mentioned in his saying: regarding a specific person, for example...
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : I say, may Allah reward you. What grants him this right? I mean, is he the guardian of the woman such that he gives permission or withholds it? The best in the first case is that if he is lenient or negligent regarding the woman's rights, he has no right to appoint so-and-so or appoint so-and-so.
The Shaykh : No, no, he did not say it absolutely. That is why he said: If he had left it or given general permission, there would be no difference between Zayd and 'Amr. But permission for a specific person: a man came to me and said, "I heard that you proposed to so-and-so, and I have a desire for her." I said, "I have given you permission to propose to her." Does that mean I dropped my right to her proposal absolutely?
The student: No...
The Shaykh : For example, I chose a woman, and a person came to me and said, "I heard that you chose so-and-so, and I want her." I said, "I have given you permission." Does this mean I made a concession? No, it may be... I made a concession to this man, either because he is more beneficial for the woman than I am, or because this man, for example, struggled to find a woman and did not find one, while I, with great ease, if I sought a woman, I would find one. So I made a concession to him for this reason. The important thing is that there are reasons. If I made a concession to a specific person, it is not permissible for anyone else to propose. But if I gave absolute permission and said, "Whoever wants to propose to so-and-so, let him propose; I have no objection." As for the claim that he has no right: he has a right as long as he has proposed to her; he has a right. Yes?
The questioner : May Allah reward you. If it happens and he proposes to her after the first man's proposal, does he withdraw?
The Shaykh : How? If he knew, I mean?
The questioner : Yes, he knew. He was ignorant.
The Shaykh : He was ignorant at first.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : He was ignorant at first, then he knew afterwards?
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Yes, what do you say about this?
The questioner : ... .
or he gives him permission
أو يأذنThe Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : I say, may Allah reward you. What grants him this right? I mean, is he the guardian of the woman such that he gives permission or withholds it? The best in the first case is that if he is lenient or negligent regarding the woman's rights, he has no right to appoint so-and-so or appoint so-and-so.
The Shaykh : No, no, he did not say it absolutely. That is why he said:
or he leaves it
أو يتركThe student: No...
The Shaykh : For example, I chose a woman, and a person came to me and said, "I heard that you chose so-and-so, and I want her." I said, "I have given you permission." Does this mean I made a concession? No, it may be... I made a concession to this man, either because he is more beneficial for the woman than I am, or because this man, for example, struggled to find a woman and did not find one, while I, with great ease, if I sought a woman, I would find one. So I made a concession to him for this reason. The important thing is that there are reasons. If I made a concession to a specific person, it is not permissible for anyone else to propose. But if I gave absolute permission and said, "Whoever wants to propose to so-and-so, let him propose; I have no objection." As for the claim that he has no right: he has a right as long as he has proposed to her; he has a right. Yes?
The questioner : May Allah reward you. If it happens and he proposes to her after the first man's proposal, does he withdraw?
The Shaykh : How? If he knew, I mean?
The questioner : Yes, he knew. He was ignorant.
The Shaykh : He was ignorant at first.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : He was ignorant at first, then he knew afterwards?
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Yes, what do you say about this?
The questioner : ... .