Is it permissible to pray in a mosque that is adjacent to a grave?
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The questioner : It is placed right up against the wall, exactly like that. Of course, if Allah the Exalted wills, I might move it. I am asking you, Shaykh, just because of that.
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner : I might move it to this mosque.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : So if... they build another wall that is also away from the wall, if Allah makes it easy, surrounding this wall which is attached to the wall.
The Shaykh : Okay, and is this wall like this short?
The questioner : It is longer than the grave.
The Shaykh : I mean, it is not like this, all the way through.
The questioner: No.
The Shaykh : Okay, is this grave in the open?
The questioner : This area.
The Shaykh : Excuse me, answer the question. Either you understood the question, so answer it, or if you did not understand, say "excuse me." I am saying "in the open." What does "in the open" mean?
The questioner : Empty land.
The Shaykh : Okay, what is the answer?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay, the best of speech is what is little and effective. What is here?
The questioner : It is closed, there is nothing at all.
The Shaykh : How is it closed?
The questioner : It is open space, there is nothing except the grave.
The Shaykh : Okay, and here is a view, and here, and here, all of this is open.
The questioner : There is a door here, there is a door here. I left it so that the door opens and lets me in. They told me, "It is closed here, absolutely no one enters, nothing." Even here, there is a room here, it seems.
The Shaykh : This is not open land, my brother. May Allah guide you.
The questioner : It is enclosed by a wall.
The Shaykh : It is not open land.
The questioner : I mean, the grave is not in the alley, but there is a wall around it.
Another questioner : This is the drawing of the wall, this wall.
Another questioner : So when you asked, "Shaykh, this square, is there a wall, really?"
Another questioner : This is the wall on the street. Here, of course, it is a street, Shaykh. This is the wall, but the wall does not go around the mosque.
The Shaykh : Nor...
The questioner : No, it comes like this, and this is the mosque wall exactly, and this is the street.
The Shaykh : ... .
The questioner : This is the mosque wall, here.
The Shaykh : This is the mosque wall, here are the mosque boundaries. I am telling you about this, what is this?
The questioner : A wall.
The Shaykh : So the grave is surrounded by four walls.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : The mosque wall, the front wall of the mosque, the western wall, and the eastern wall. And as I said, there is a door here to enter to the grave. Okay, why is this grave like this, alone in the space... what do people say, what is it... whose grave is it?
The questioner : The grave of the owner of the mosque, the one who built the mosque.
The Shaykh : The owner of the mosque. So then, this must have a wall built like this.
The questioner : Complete.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Our Shaykh, look what is coming here. Here the wall is built like this, and here there is a wall made exactly like this.
The Shaykh : What is this?
The questioner : At the mihrab, behind the mihrab, there is a wall exactly like this, coming. They put the wall here. If we want to extend the wall, it would hit this wall and this wall.
The Shaykh : Yes, exactly. It means the middle, yes, meaning these two sides, we either raised them or left them. The important thing is that the wall became one piece extending from east to west.
The questioner : It becomes a complete wall between the mosque and...
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : And of course, there is a wudu area here, and the neighbors' houses, and so on.
The Shaykh : Where is the wudu area?
The questioner : The wudu area is here, its entrance is from the mosque door exactly here. This is where the imam lives, and here is the wudu area.
The Shaykh : How much is there between the wudu area and the western wall of this cemetery?
The questioner : There is about three or four meters.
The Shaykh : Three or four meters, like this, yes.
The questioner : The door of the wudu area is from here.
The Shaykh : Okay, why is this door here?
The questioner : By Allah, they put the door, I don't know why.
Another questioner : So that they can recite al-Fatihah for the deceased, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Hmm.
The questioner : So that they can recite al-Fatihah for the deceased, they enter.
Another questioner : Even the mu'adhdhin in front of me, when the young men wanted to enter with me, this is here, they said, "No, you do not enter, no one enters here." I asked him, he said, "Absolutely, no one enters here at all."
The Shaykh : Okay, try to close this door.
The questioner : It is closed with a lock, with a wall? If Allah wills, with time, if we come a little bit, and maybe I will try to dig it up if Allah makes it easy.
The Shaykh : A little bit at a time.
The questioner : Yes, but the older group goes a little bit. But if Allah wills, is it permissible to pray in it, our Shaykh?
The Shaykh : Yes, if the wall is built, there is no problem.
The questioner : May Allah not will it, the mosque is crowded with worshippers.
The Shaykh : How is it crowded?
The questioner : It is crowded with worshippers.
The Shaykh : And where is this?
The questioner : First of all, in the units next to our brother Abu Anas, it is one hundred and fifty meters away from it.
Another questioner : Only one hundred and fifty meters?
Another questioner : Only, and the people need the mosque there with this crowding, it is knowledge, ignorance, and fitrah.
The Shaykh : Abu Anas, the reciter.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : I mean, is it not far from his mosque?
The questioner : 150 meters.
The Shaykh : But.
The questioner : Approximately, or two hundred, like this. But, Subhan Allah, it is as if their neighborhood is separate and this neighborhood is separate.
The Shaykh : Yes, it is a local mosque, I mean.
The questioner : I mean, if you allow me, before you said to build this wall, even though it is separated in this way, is it also considered part of the mosque?
The Shaykh : How is it separated?
The questioner : According to my drawing.
The Shaykh : Is it also considered what?
The questioner : Part of the mosque.
The Shaykh : No, it is not considered part of the mosque. But in the opinion of Imam Ahmad, if the grave is in front of the mosque wall, it is necessary to separate the mosque wall and the grave with another wall. Yes.
The questioner : He is also asking, as if about this wall, is this wall considered part of...?
The Shaykh : Not this one.
The questioner : This one is not inside the mosque.
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner : I might move it to this mosque.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : So if... they build another wall that is also away from the wall, if Allah makes it easy, surrounding this wall which is attached to the wall.
The Shaykh : Okay, and is this wall like this short?
The questioner : It is longer than the grave.
The Shaykh : I mean, it is not like this, all the way through.
The questioner: No.
The Shaykh : Okay, is this grave in the open?
The questioner : This area.
The Shaykh : Excuse me, answer the question. Either you understood the question, so answer it, or if you did not understand, say "excuse me." I am saying "in the open." What does "in the open" mean?
The questioner : Empty land.
The Shaykh : Okay, what is the answer?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay, the best of speech is what is little and effective. What is here?
The questioner : It is closed, there is nothing at all.
The Shaykh : How is it closed?
The questioner : It is open space, there is nothing except the grave.
The Shaykh : Okay, and here is a view, and here, and here, all of this is open.
The questioner : There is a door here, there is a door here. I left it so that the door opens and lets me in. They told me, "It is closed here, absolutely no one enters, nothing." Even here, there is a room here, it seems.
The Shaykh : This is not open land, my brother. May Allah guide you.
The questioner : It is enclosed by a wall.
The Shaykh : It is not open land.
The questioner : I mean, the grave is not in the alley, but there is a wall around it.
Another questioner : This is the drawing of the wall, this wall.
Another questioner : So when you asked, "Shaykh, this square, is there a wall, really?"
Another questioner : This is the wall on the street. Here, of course, it is a street, Shaykh. This is the wall, but the wall does not go around the mosque.
The Shaykh : Nor...
The questioner : No, it comes like this, and this is the mosque wall exactly, and this is the street.
The Shaykh : ... .
The questioner : This is the mosque wall, here.
The Shaykh : This is the mosque wall, here are the mosque boundaries. I am telling you about this, what is this?
The questioner : A wall.
The Shaykh : So the grave is surrounded by four walls.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : The mosque wall, the front wall of the mosque, the western wall, and the eastern wall. And as I said, there is a door here to enter to the grave. Okay, why is this grave like this, alone in the space... what do people say, what is it... whose grave is it?
The questioner : The grave of the owner of the mosque, the one who built the mosque.
The Shaykh : The owner of the mosque. So then, this must have a wall built like this.
The questioner : Complete.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Our Shaykh, look what is coming here. Here the wall is built like this, and here there is a wall made exactly like this.
The Shaykh : What is this?
The questioner : At the mihrab, behind the mihrab, there is a wall exactly like this, coming. They put the wall here. If we want to extend the wall, it would hit this wall and this wall.
The Shaykh : Yes, exactly. It means the middle, yes, meaning these two sides, we either raised them or left them. The important thing is that the wall became one piece extending from east to west.
The questioner : It becomes a complete wall between the mosque and...
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : And of course, there is a wudu area here, and the neighbors' houses, and so on.
The Shaykh : Where is the wudu area?
The questioner : The wudu area is here, its entrance is from the mosque door exactly here. This is where the imam lives, and here is the wudu area.
The Shaykh : How much is there between the wudu area and the western wall of this cemetery?
The questioner : There is about three or four meters.
The Shaykh : Three or four meters, like this, yes.
The questioner : The door of the wudu area is from here.
The Shaykh : Okay, why is this door here?
The questioner : By Allah, they put the door, I don't know why.
Another questioner : So that they can recite al-Fatihah for the deceased, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Hmm.
The questioner : So that they can recite al-Fatihah for the deceased, they enter.
Another questioner : Even the mu'adhdhin in front of me, when the young men wanted to enter with me, this is here, they said, "No, you do not enter, no one enters here." I asked him, he said, "Absolutely, no one enters here at all."
The Shaykh : Okay, try to close this door.
The questioner : It is closed with a lock, with a wall? If Allah wills, with time, if we come a little bit, and maybe I will try to dig it up if Allah makes it easy.
The Shaykh : A little bit at a time.
The questioner : Yes, but the older group goes a little bit. But if Allah wills, is it permissible to pray in it, our Shaykh?
The Shaykh : Yes, if the wall is built, there is no problem.
The questioner : May Allah not will it, the mosque is crowded with worshippers.
The Shaykh : How is it crowded?
The questioner : It is crowded with worshippers.
The Shaykh : And where is this?
The questioner : First of all, in the units next to our brother Abu Anas, it is one hundred and fifty meters away from it.
Another questioner : Only one hundred and fifty meters?
Another questioner : Only, and the people need the mosque there with this crowding, it is knowledge, ignorance, and fitrah.
The Shaykh : Abu Anas, the reciter.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : I mean, is it not far from his mosque?
The questioner : 150 meters.
The Shaykh : But.
The questioner : Approximately, or two hundred, like this. But, Subhan Allah, it is as if their neighborhood is separate and this neighborhood is separate.
The Shaykh : Yes, it is a local mosque, I mean.
The questioner : I mean, if you allow me, before you said to build this wall, even though it is separated in this way, is it also considered part of the mosque?
The Shaykh : How is it separated?
The questioner : According to my drawing.
The Shaykh : Is it also considered what?
The questioner : Part of the mosque.
The Shaykh : No, it is not considered part of the mosque. But in the opinion of Imam Ahmad, if the grave is in front of the mosque wall, it is necessary to separate the mosque wall and the grave with another wall. Yes.
The questioner : He is also asking, as if about this wall, is this wall considered part of...?
The Shaykh : Not this one.
The questioner : This one is not inside the mosque.
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