What is your opinion on striving to earn money in order to benefit the Muslim community?

The questioner: In the matter of... always.

The Shaykh: It crosses your mind.

The questioner : Yes.

The Shaykh : Yes.

The questioner: If it is the custom... .

The Shaykh: What is in your left hand.
The student : You have done well.
Another student: No, I am with the work... .

The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: Always, I say.

The questioner: I and... every day here with you... always... is it appropriate that it be that... .
Another student: Your plate is not your plate... .
Another student: You reach the plate.

The questioner : ... .
The student: Your earning... in the path of money, it will not expand your provision; provision is apportioned.

The Shaykh : ... .

The questioner: So if you have this one... and you do not have... .
The student : Our Shaykh...

The Shaykh: His goal is serving... with money.

The questioner: Serving Islam.

The Shaykh: Serving the Muslim community with money.

The questioner : Yes.

The Shaykh: Okay, but before I answer you, I understood that there is a disagreement between you and your father... I do not think this matter... .
The student: This is the instruction of the company manager, O Shaykh.

The Shaykh: I do not think anyone would disagree with this... .
The student: Hambo Harb is the company manager.

The Shaykh: ... Tell me why?

The questioner : Why?

The Shaykh: Because now you are saying "I think," who are you, who are you to have an opinion?

The questioner: I am a dwarf.

The Shaykh: Listen, listen... with me, who are you to have an opinion in such matters that require knowledge... to the people of knowledge? Now they say in Syria, this phrase is "I think." Now I have divided it into two: you say "I think the matter is such," I think, and we think.

The questioner: I estimate.

The Shaykh: So, does that mean you are contradicting me now?

The questioner: No, no... .

The Shaykh: I am now going to tell you... why, because he knows before us that there is a hadith related to working while sleepy, that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said to him one day: . He said: "By Allah, O Messenger of Allah, I did not embrace Islam for the sake of money" . Did you hear this hadith in your time? Say: Yes, and say: No, I do not understand it that way.

The questioner : Heh.

The Shaykh: I understand it that way, and I understand no.

The questioner: I am afraid I will lie.

The Shaykh: You fall into error, do you know the truth? What is your concern now if I tell you I did not hear it?

The questioner: I did not hear it, that is easier for me.

The Shaykh: Okay, it is easier for you, that is how you are, let it be easy for you as long as you see it. Now, just listen to the completion of the hadith, and you will say this is my opinion, and your father heard this hadith before you, you have not finished... do not rush. The question of the Messenger to 'Amr: . He said: "By Allah - O Messenger of Allah - I did not embrace Islam for the sake of money." Then he said - (peace be upon him) - here is the point - : , is this not your opinion, is this not your opinion?

The questioner: Of course.

The Shaykh: Of course, this is not your opinion, who is before whom, him or you? Answer, answer.

The questioner : ... .

The Shaykh: No, may Allah guide you, answer.

The questioner : ... .

The Shaykh: Hahaha, who is before whom, the father or the son?

The questioner : ... .

The Shaykh: So how did you establish the disagreement between you and him? Here, when I mentioned the hadith to you and told you that this is your opinion, you said yes, okay. We asked the father, who is before you, is this not your opinion? I told you I cannot have an opinion other than this. He said yes. So now you have known that your father's opinion is with the hadith, before you, because you are his son; without him, you would not have existed, correct?

The questioner : ... .

The Shaykh: So there is no disagreement, but the important research in the matter is that you notice the two halves of the hadith ; so we, ... and by Allah, the Muslim must earn money for what? To benefit the other communities? This is not enough. He must gather money through the lawful way, and it must be... .

The questioner : May Allah reward you with good...

The Shaykh: And... is it the case today that most of the money that is gathered is gathered through lawful or unlawful means?

The questioner: Unlawful.

The Shaykh: So, it is not easy today to imagine, I want to gather money for what? To serve the Muslim community. The matter is not this easy. Before you think of gathering money, you must think about the way of gathering money, because money is now in people's hands, a lot and a very lot, correct? Money is in people's hands, a lot and a very lot. One person may have millions, or even billions, but you look at how... this is money... you will say: Surely this money did not gather in his possession through unlawful means. Very close. I did not hear the project that was announced for the cancer hospital... he said... I was told that the center will contact a person - put it in your pocket, may Allah reward you with good - the important thing is hello, this person donates half a million. How much will his capital be? Millions. What is your opinion, is this money lawful or forbidden? What will prevail in your suspicion?

The questioner: It prevails in my suspicion, according to the people I know... they said it is forbidden money.

The Shaykh: Okay, so this... earning lawful money today, and in the quantity you are singing about, is not an easy matter.

The questioner: If the purpose of gathering money is coupled with reliance upon Allah, whereas if... this person originally... may Allah make it easy for you.
The student: And He may not make it easy.

The Shaykh: It is normal, O Shaykh, it is normal.
The student : Heh.
The student: The principle is not gathering money, O Shaykh. The principle is not gathering money. The principle is earning money and spending it, not gathering it. The goal is not gathering, but the goal is spending money in the interests of people... .

The Shaykh: This is his speech... .
The student: But I mean, the crux of the matter is the importance of money in the field of da'wah.

The Shaykh: Each one of us... knows now the importance better... .
The student : ... .

The Shaykh: ... your father, because your father.

The questioner: ... we are at a fundamental point, O Shaykh.

The Shaykh: Good, and it is.

The questioner: And it is that increasing attention to the matter of earning and laboring, etc., increases the provision. I say that this does not increase the provision, but also the one... .

The Shaykh: ... the speech, there is no disagreement between you and your father.

The questioner: It is a settled matter, but the question is: do you sit without work, or do you work?

The Shaykh: What does your father say? Does he sit or work? This is one thing. Then, do you see him sitting or working? Say working.

The questioner: Working.

The Shaykh: And I am afraid he is working more... .

The questioner: By Allah, that is true.

The Shaykh: Hehehe.

The questioner: But I mean... .
The student: Muhammad, one person now, without cutting off your speech, no harm.

The Shaykh: This is your son, he is afraid for him because he flies in illusions and imagination.

The questioner: If now he did not sit in such a session.

The Shaykh : Yes.

The questioner: Is it... in order to go to earn money and deprive himself of this session? What is your opinion? That is, if he went to work, would he earn from it, or would he not attend this session? What is your guess?
The student: I say... he may earn from it. It is possible I go to work with the intention of earning, not that I earn... .

The questioner: Yes, yes, yes. So what is your opinion?

The Shaykh : ... .
The student: Of course, it is not the same.
Another student: Why did he not cancel his work? He would not go, and his earning would not be upon him.

The Shaykh: His money did not decrease.
The student: No, of course his money did not decrease.

The Shaykh: It did not decrease.

The questioner: No, it did not decrease.

The Shaykh : Why?

The questioner: He did not take the cause, he did not take the cause for money to obtain money. No, here he sat, he sat away from earning.

The Shaykh: You now, when you said the money did not decrease, this is an answer, is it reasonable or not reasonable? Reasonable and not reasonable, reasonable is my speech... I.
The student: If I said not reasonable, it means my thinking is limited, meaning... .
The student: No, no, that is not the intention.

The questioner: I am speaking, if I said, but also if I said reasonable, also... .

The Shaykh: I will explain to you. My speech that is not reasonable, so that it becomes reasonable. Now, if we assume a man in work who does not earn, for every hour he earns one dinar. If he works eight hours, how many dinars?

The questioner: Eight dinars.

The Shaykh: Eight dinars. And if he works ten?

The questioner: Eight dinars.
The student: Ah, ten.

The Shaykh: You need to be careful with the answer. Ten. These two hours are on top of the eight. Instead of working in them, he takes two dinars and adds them to the eight, making them ten. He attended a session of knowledge, did he lose or gain?

The questioner: If we assume.

The Shaykh: You will return to my speech, you will return to my speech, you will return to my speech.
The student: ... He lost.

The Shaykh: Hahaha, this is the meaning of the speech, reasonable and not reasonable. If you find the speech on the scale of material things, it is not reasonable. The one who works ten earns more than what? Eight. This is reasonable. So to reverse this perspective, the reasonable thing is that he works eight, and these two hours he spends in learning the rulings of the Shari'ah, knowing the halal and the haram.

The questioner : I mean.

The Shaykh: This is the reasonable thing. And here now comes the hadith of reasonable and not reasonable... my speech . Did you hear this hadith in your time? Not reasonable.

The questioner : How?

The Shaykh: Not reasonable... so.

The questioner: Ask one who has tried... .

The Shaykh : Is it scientifically proven for the Muslim and not for the disbeliever? Here we say regarding material matters it is not reasonable, because if it were reasonable, the wealthy person would not have interpreted it as wealth... money, nor would he spend it in the cause of Allah. So, is it reasonable or not reasonable? It is reasonable for the believers; because Allah - Mighty and Majestic - places the blessing of the purified wealth more than the unpurified wealth; and therefore he said - peace and blessings be upon him - : .
The student : The outcome of riba is to ... .

The Shaykh : So, no, and may Allah reward you with good ... Praise be to Allah.

The questioner : ... my Shaykh ... .

The Shaykh : May Allah bless you, O Muhammad. You must distinguish between dealing with matters by the scale of the Shari'ah and dealing with matters by the scale of reason. First, then distinguish between dealing with matters by the scale of a great mind or a small mind, and between the mind of an experienced man and another who is not experienced, and so on. This is if we take the issue from a material side. And if we take it from the religious side, there is ... absolutely nothing, but rather it is faith and submission to the ruling of Allah - Mighty and Majestic - Yes.