The Hanbali school's position on the manner of moving the index finger during the tashahhud.

The Shaykh : No, we want to hear from al-Walid, because it seems he had an opinion regarding the Hanbali school!
The student : Shaykh, in some of the Hanbali sub-branches, and in our study with Shaykh 'Abd Allah ibn Jibrin.

The Shaykh : Yes.
The student : When we were studying with him in "Al-'Uddah Sharh al-'Umdah."

The Shaykh : Yes.
The student : He mentioned to us, of course, several narrations in the school.

The Shaykh : Yes.
The student : And among them, he mentioned that the movement is from the beginning of the tashahhud to the testimony that there is no god but Allah, then it stops, meaning they do not continue the movement with it.

The Shaykh : No problem, that is not the issue here... The issue now is the manner of the movement; do you have a position other than the one the professor mentioned earlier, attributed to the Maliki school?
The student : Yes, lowering and raising.

The Shaykh : That is it.
The student : No, I mean the Hanbalis.

The Shaykh : He, I am speaking about the Hanbalis, do you have a form specified in the school?
The student : Yes, our study with the Shaykh, but we need to refer back to it.

The Shaykh : No problem, that is a different research!
The student : Yes.

The Shaykh : During the reading, what is the form?
The student : That it is lowering and raising.

The Shaykh : Lowering and raising?
The student: Yes.

The Shaykh : Okay, here comes to mind, since we have taken the answer to the question, that in my mind the Hanbalis specify the movement by linking it to the Name of Glory, is this correct?
The student : That is a narration.

The Shaykh : A narration, and the other narration is absolute!
The student: Yes.

The Shaykh : Is that so?
The student : It is in the third one, which is up to the phrase of the tashahhud, I bear witness that there is no god but Allah.

The Shaykh : No, I say: this narration that says: up to the end of the tashahhud, they do not continue the movement as we do, even up to "there is no god but Allah," but they say - for example - like this: The greetings are for Allah, the prayers and the good things, peace be upon you, O Prophet, and the mercy of Allah!
The student : No, they continue, O Shaykh, up to the tashahhud.

The Shaykh : May Allah bless you, I am not asking now about the practical aspect for you to tell me: they continue.
The student: Yes.
The student : I say: what is in my mind from the Hanbali school is that they restrict the movement, accompanying it with the Name of Glory, as a school position; has this passed by you?
The student : Yes, this has passed by us.

The Shaykh : Yes, that is my intention.
The student : In our study with the Shaykh!

The Shaykh : Good, so when it is said: up to the end of the tashahhud, "there is no god but Allah," it does not mean like this lowering and raising as you said in a continuous manner, but rather at the Name of Glory!
The student: Yes.

The Shaykh : Is that so?
The student: Yes.

The Shaykh: All right.