What is the ruling on eating at one’s father’s house if his wealth comes from a café and from banks?
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The questioner : He has a father who owns a café and a brother who works in a bank. This young man lives in a separate apartment and has a wife who is also committed to her religion. What is the ruling on the money from the coffee shop? Yes. And what is the ruling on the money from the bank? And what is the ruling on eating at the father’s and brother’s place, meaning if he goes and eats with them? Also, he participated in building this house with a portion of the bank money. What is the ruling on living in this apartment, knowing that this young man’s father takes one hundred dinars as assistance for him for the construction and other things?
Another questioner : He takes one hundred dinars... a lot of what he eats with and lives with.
The Shaykh : I understood that the son is living in a separate apartment.
The questioner : Yes, uncle, of course. The building is one their father built, of course, with the money from the café and the money from the banks. And of course, this young man was always paying his father... one hundred dirhams. He is living in his apartment alone, but the value of this apartment is, of course, from the value of the...
The student : ...café.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Yes, the café has forbidden things.
The questioner : Yes, they play shed and they play...
The Shaykh : Gambling.
The questioner : Yes, gambling, everything is possible.
The Shaykh : There is gambling.
The questioner : ...Shaykh, the matter involves shed, but what about us... those who lose...
The Shaykh : It is gambling.
The questioner : Gambling, meaning it is not explicit like the other kind of gambling.
The Shaykh : And this young man, meaning, did he participate in building the apartment he lives in, or not?
The questioner : Generally, our professor.
The Shaykh : The entire construction.
The questioner : The entire construction.
The Shaykh : Yes, and he is now working independently from his father.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : What does he do?
The questioner : In blacksmithing.
The Shaykh : A blacksmith.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : What appears to me—and Allah knows best—is that he does not sin by what his father’s hands earned, especially before he was able to support himself. However, once he is able to support himself and his wife, he must become independent in his housing, whether by renting or building if he has the ability, and he should not continue to share in their residence as long as it was built with forbidden money. He must get rid of it.
The questioner : Meaning, he does not complete this journey with them.
The Shaykh : Why, what journey?
The questioner : Until now, he is currently living there.
The Shaykh : ... .
The questioner : His apartment is currently ready and he has been living in it for more than a year, but now his father is building a new floor.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : And the path they are on.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : ...dinars to his father... new for the Salafi call, and meaning he declares what is lawful and what is forbidden.
The Shaykh : Praise be to Allah.
The questioner : But now he is suffering from this problem, it is not like this...
Another questioner : Yes, yes, like this.
The questioner : He is suffering from this problem that now his father, meaning, charges him one hundred dinars, and his remaining brothers, each one pays, meaning, one hundred dinars, fifty dinars, and they cooperate to build this house. So he is in a position that is not easy.
The Shaykh : What do his other siblings do?
The questioner : One is an employee in the bank, that is one of them, an employee in the bank, but I have no knowledge of the other two.
Another questioner : Now, before the residence, which is the apartment he is in.
The Shaykh : My brother, as long as there is a type of participation here, he should get rid of it if he is able, because he might say, "I am not able." That is between him and his Lord. But this is my answer: that he should get rid of participating in the establishment of a building whose wealth mostly grew from the forbidden. Do you understand how?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Then comes the sermon we mentioned, and it came in the question that he does not share in their food and drink for the same reason.
The questioner : The one hundred dinars he pays.
The Shaykh : He does not pay; he refrains from paying.
The questioner : And what he has already paid.
The Shaykh : May Allah forgive what has passed. When he paid...
The questioner : ...if his father dies, he takes from the inheritance.
The Shaykh : But the path of the transfer of wealth through the forbidden via inheritance becomes lawful. What concerns us now is that he does not become a partner in this.
The questioner : He does not become a partner with his father.
The Shaykh : He does not become...
The questioner : If he leaves his house.
The Shaykh : But he does not cut off ties with him; he reaches him, but he excuses himself with an explanation.
The questioner : ...what is the reason he does not want to eat and drink at his father’s place.
The Shaykh : The participation, the participation.
The questioner : The money is mixed.
The Shaykh : What is predominant in it?
The questioner : The forbidden. The café, the money of the café, the predominant part is forbidden.
The Shaykh : Now, you are the one who knows best here, because the questioner is... now... what are you...
The questioner : I was imagining from Abu Ahmad’s question that there are several brothers.
The Shaykh : And therefore I asked what they do.
The questioner : But what I understood, mentioning what I understood, my professor, what I understood is that there are several brothers, and these brothers are paying one hundred dinars, one hundred dinars, one hundred dinars to their father. The proportion of the forbidden coming from their side, I say, the employee in the bank and the café, meaning, if I compare this and that, I would say it might be approximately equal.
The Shaykh : It is another issue. Now, here you have two issues: the issue of participation in the establishment of the building, and the issue of participation in the food.
The questioner : And I am only asking about the food.
The Shaykh : You are asking about the food. If the predominant part of the food is forbidden money, then the answer is the one that preceded, regarding the participation in the building. Whether it is predominant or not, he must not be a partner with him in the establishment of the building, and there is forbidden in it.
The questioner : Okay, our professor Abu Abdullah, just a minute, but our professor, this is a question that I, the doctor, and the brother Abu Talal participated in a month ago... the Salafi [movement], and it keeps escaping my memory every time we sit. May Allah reward you with good. First, I say to him, if he goes out and his father asks him... he does not burden him to pay except what he can afford. This is our brother.
The Shaykh : He needs to live...
The questioner : Meaning, the excess, for example, ten, or what he is able to.
The Shaykh : He is not able to, he is able to more, so this is his obligation, because it is as assistance to his father.
Another questioner : He takes one hundred dinars... a lot of what he eats with and lives with.
The Shaykh : I understood that the son is living in a separate apartment.
The questioner : Yes, uncle, of course. The building is one their father built, of course, with the money from the café and the money from the banks. And of course, this young man was always paying his father... one hundred dirhams. He is living in his apartment alone, but the value of this apartment is, of course, from the value of the...
The student : ...café.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Yes, the café has forbidden things.
The questioner : Yes, they play shed and they play...
The Shaykh : Gambling.
The questioner : Yes, gambling, everything is possible.
The Shaykh : There is gambling.
The questioner : ...Shaykh, the matter involves shed, but what about us... those who lose...
The Shaykh : It is gambling.
The questioner : Gambling, meaning it is not explicit like the other kind of gambling.
The Shaykh : And this young man, meaning, did he participate in building the apartment he lives in, or not?
The questioner : Generally, our professor.
The Shaykh : The entire construction.
The questioner : The entire construction.
The Shaykh : Yes, and he is now working independently from his father.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : What does he do?
The questioner : In blacksmithing.
The Shaykh : A blacksmith.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : What appears to me—and Allah knows best—is that he does not sin by what his father’s hands earned, especially before he was able to support himself. However, once he is able to support himself and his wife, he must become independent in his housing, whether by renting or building if he has the ability, and he should not continue to share in their residence as long as it was built with forbidden money. He must get rid of it.
The questioner : Meaning, he does not complete this journey with them.
The Shaykh : Why, what journey?
The questioner : Until now, he is currently living there.
The Shaykh : ... .
The questioner : His apartment is currently ready and he has been living in it for more than a year, but now his father is building a new floor.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : And the path they are on.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : ...dinars to his father... new for the Salafi call, and meaning he declares what is lawful and what is forbidden.
The Shaykh : Praise be to Allah.
The questioner : But now he is suffering from this problem, it is not like this...
Another questioner : Yes, yes, like this.
The questioner : He is suffering from this problem that now his father, meaning, charges him one hundred dinars, and his remaining brothers, each one pays, meaning, one hundred dinars, fifty dinars, and they cooperate to build this house. So he is in a position that is not easy.
The Shaykh : What do his other siblings do?
The questioner : One is an employee in the bank, that is one of them, an employee in the bank, but I have no knowledge of the other two.
Another questioner : Now, before the residence, which is the apartment he is in.
The Shaykh : My brother, as long as there is a type of participation here, he should get rid of it if he is able, because he might say, "I am not able." That is between him and his Lord. But this is my answer: that he should get rid of participating in the establishment of a building whose wealth mostly grew from the forbidden. Do you understand how?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Then comes the sermon we mentioned, and it came in the question that he does not share in their food and drink for the same reason.
The questioner : The one hundred dinars he pays.
The Shaykh : He does not pay; he refrains from paying.
The questioner : And what he has already paid.
The Shaykh : May Allah forgive what has passed. When he paid...
The questioner : ...if his father dies, he takes from the inheritance.
The Shaykh : But the path of the transfer of wealth through the forbidden via inheritance becomes lawful. What concerns us now is that he does not become a partner in this.
The questioner : He does not become a partner with his father.
The Shaykh : He does not become...
The questioner : If he leaves his house.
The Shaykh : But he does not cut off ties with him; he reaches him, but he excuses himself with an explanation.
The questioner : ...what is the reason he does not want to eat and drink at his father’s place.
The Shaykh : The participation, the participation.
The questioner : The money is mixed.
The Shaykh : What is predominant in it?
The questioner : The forbidden. The café, the money of the café, the predominant part is forbidden.
The Shaykh : Now, you are the one who knows best here, because the questioner is... now... what are you...
The questioner : I was imagining from Abu Ahmad’s question that there are several brothers.
The Shaykh : And therefore I asked what they do.
The questioner : But what I understood, mentioning what I understood, my professor, what I understood is that there are several brothers, and these brothers are paying one hundred dinars, one hundred dinars, one hundred dinars to their father. The proportion of the forbidden coming from their side, I say, the employee in the bank and the café, meaning, if I compare this and that, I would say it might be approximately equal.
The Shaykh : It is another issue. Now, here you have two issues: the issue of participation in the establishment of the building, and the issue of participation in the food.
The questioner : And I am only asking about the food.
The Shaykh : You are asking about the food. If the predominant part of the food is forbidden money, then the answer is the one that preceded, regarding the participation in the building. Whether it is predominant or not, he must not be a partner with him in the establishment of the building, and there is forbidden in it.
The questioner : Okay, our professor Abu Abdullah, just a minute, but our professor, this is a question that I, the doctor, and the brother Abu Talal participated in a month ago... the Salafi [movement], and it keeps escaping my memory every time we sit. May Allah reward you with good. First, I say to him, if he goes out and his father asks him... he does not burden him to pay except what he can afford. This is our brother.
The Shaykh : He needs to live...
The questioner : Meaning, the excess, for example, ten, or what he is able to.
The Shaykh : He is not able to, he is able to more, so this is his obligation, because it is as assistance to his father.
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