Continuation of the Debate: Does the one who legislates a law believe in its correctness and suitability for the time?
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The questioner : He rules that it is an error, but it is suitable for the circumstances, and he acts accordingly.
The Shaykh : Also, your saying "suitable for the circumstances" needs qualification so that I can give you the answer with clarity.
The questioner : Please.
The Shaykh : Do you mean when he says "suitable for the circumstances" that this is what is suitable and the law of Allah is not?
The questioner : The law of Allah is suitable and his law is suitable, but the law of Allah is more correct, whereas his law is correct.
The Shaykh : Okay, his saying it is correct.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : In his heart and in his mouth?
The questioner : He says in his heart, "It is so."
The Shaykh : He says in his heart that it is correct.
The questioner : In his heart, he believes in the correctness of the legislation of the law of Allah.
The Shaykh : I am speaking about his law, Professor.
The questioner : His law; he says it is correct, and that one is more correct.
The Shaykh : The correctness by which he ruled.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Heart or mouth?
The questioner : He ruled with his heart that it is correct, but...
The Shaykh : Just a moment, just a moment, am I saying heart or mouth? You are saying heart, okay, I want to build on this: did he take it from the Shari'ah?
The questioner : He did not take it from the Shari'ah.
The Shaykh : Then this is disbelief.
The questioner : Disbelief because...
The Shaykh : Because he performed a heart action contrary to the Shari'ah.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : And not just a mouth action, meaning the issue, no matter how we develop it, must return to either a mouth action, like the person who commits unlawful sexual intercourse, for example.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Or to an action and a belief. So, in the end, after we have looked into the matter, you said he believes that what he legislated for the people is correct, but the law of Allah is more correct. Where did he take his ruling on his law that it is correct?
The questioner : From his desire.
The Shaykh : Then it is not from the Shari'ah.
The questioner : And disobedience is from his desire.
The Shaykh : Listen to me, listen to me.
The questioner : Please.
The Shaykh : Do not rush, Professor.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : So, his saying in his heart that this law of his is correct means he was not a believer in what came in the Qur'an and the Sunnah, but rather he brought a belief from himself.
The questioner : If you please...
The Shaykh : Excuse me, I want to finish this point and then speak... he brought a belief from himself, and by that, he committed disbelief.
The questioner : With a law.
The Shaykh : Yes, a law. His saying it is correct, this law is correct.
The questioner : This... is a belief.
The Shaykh : Yes, exactly.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : And by that, he committed disbelief. Therefore, the example is not suitable. We need an action without it being accompanied by a belief, and yet it is apostasy. We need an example. This example is not suitable, and you will never find one, Professor. Do not trouble yourself.
The Shaykh : Also, your saying "suitable for the circumstances" needs qualification so that I can give you the answer with clarity.
The questioner : Please.
The Shaykh : Do you mean when he says "suitable for the circumstances" that this is what is suitable and the law of Allah is not?
The questioner : The law of Allah is suitable and his law is suitable, but the law of Allah is more correct, whereas his law is correct.
The Shaykh : Okay, his saying it is correct.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : In his heart and in his mouth?
The questioner : He says in his heart, "It is so."
The Shaykh : He says in his heart that it is correct.
The questioner : In his heart, he believes in the correctness of the legislation of the law of Allah.
The Shaykh : I am speaking about his law, Professor.
The questioner : His law; he says it is correct, and that one is more correct.
The Shaykh : The correctness by which he ruled.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Heart or mouth?
The questioner : He ruled with his heart that it is correct, but...
The Shaykh : Just a moment, just a moment, am I saying heart or mouth? You are saying heart, okay, I want to build on this: did he take it from the Shari'ah?
The questioner : He did not take it from the Shari'ah.
The Shaykh : Then this is disbelief.
The questioner : Disbelief because...
The Shaykh : Because he performed a heart action contrary to the Shari'ah.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : And not just a mouth action, meaning the issue, no matter how we develop it, must return to either a mouth action, like the person who commits unlawful sexual intercourse, for example.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Or to an action and a belief. So, in the end, after we have looked into the matter, you said he believes that what he legislated for the people is correct, but the law of Allah is more correct. Where did he take his ruling on his law that it is correct?
The questioner : From his desire.
The Shaykh : Then it is not from the Shari'ah.
The questioner : And disobedience is from his desire.
The Shaykh : Listen to me, listen to me.
The questioner : Please.
The Shaykh : Do not rush, Professor.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : So, his saying in his heart that this law of his is correct means he was not a believer in what came in the Qur'an and the Sunnah, but rather he brought a belief from himself.
The questioner : If you please...
The Shaykh : Excuse me, I want to finish this point and then speak... he brought a belief from himself, and by that, he committed disbelief.
The questioner : With a law.
The Shaykh : Yes, a law. His saying it is correct, this law is correct.
The questioner : This... is a belief.
The Shaykh : Yes, exactly.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : And by that, he committed disbelief. Therefore, the example is not suitable. We need an action without it being accompanied by a belief, and yet it is apostasy. We need an example. This example is not suitable, and you will never find one, Professor. Do not trouble yourself.
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