Regarding the criticism of disconnection between Abu 'Ubaydah and Abu 'Abdullah ibn Mas'ud. The Shaykh: Yes. The questioner:
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The questioner : Regarding the criticism of disconnection between Abu 'Ubaydah and Abu 'Abdullah ibn Mas'ud.
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : What is the reason for the statement of some critics that the hadith of Abu 'Ubaydah from Abu 'Abdullah ibn Mas'ud was included in the Musnad, or that we include it in the Musnad?
The Shaykh : It was included in the Musnad.
The questioner : As a connected hadith, meaning they said, "We included it in the Musnad."
The Shaykh : Who said that?
The questioner : I am referring to Ali ibn al-Madini.
The Shaykh : He does not mean specifically Abu 'Ubaydah; rather, if a person narrated and heard from his father, Abdullah.
The questioner : He explicitly states that he did not hear from him, but he says, "We included it in the Musnad."
The Shaykh : This is what I wanted to tell you: it is included in the Musnad on the basis that Ibn Mas'ud was a Companion, so the hadiths narrated from him are attributed to him without doubt. However, this does not mean that every hadith attributed to any Companion is considered connected. Therefore, there is a general and a specific aspect here. The Musnad is what mentions the Companion, whereas connection must be established in every layer of the chain of narration.
So, the statement of Ali ibn al-Madini does not contradict what al-Tirmidhi and others mentioned.
Especially since this criticism of disconnection is based on the statement of some of the memorizers mentioned in the biography of Abu 'Ubaydah, that his father died when he was about two or three years old in these regions, such that he was not yet of discernment, let alone an adult. Such a statement does not contradict the explicit, established criticism.
The questioner : Does it not imply, O Shaykh, that they treated it as connected and used it as evidence, since they said...
The Shaykh : How is that, may Allah reward you, when you say that he said he did not hear from him?
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : Well, how can this be connected?
The questioner : For example, his knowledge of his father's hadith or something like that.
The Shaykh : how
The questioner : I mean his knowledge of his father's hadith.
The Shaykh : And if it means that each person did not catch up with his father, we say that he memorized his hadith and the one who transmitted it to him is trustworthy. This is what no one among the scholars of knowledge says; otherwise, if we widen this circle, we would close the door to criticism of disconnection.
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : What is the reason for the statement of some critics that the hadith of Abu 'Ubaydah from Abu 'Abdullah ibn Mas'ud was included in the Musnad, or that we include it in the Musnad?
The Shaykh : It was included in the Musnad.
The questioner : As a connected hadith, meaning they said, "We included it in the Musnad."
The Shaykh : Who said that?
The questioner : I am referring to Ali ibn al-Madini.
The Shaykh : He does not mean specifically Abu 'Ubaydah; rather, if a person narrated and heard from his father, Abdullah.
The questioner : He explicitly states that he did not hear from him, but he says, "We included it in the Musnad."
The Shaykh : This is what I wanted to tell you: it is included in the Musnad on the basis that Ibn Mas'ud was a Companion, so the hadiths narrated from him are attributed to him without doubt. However, this does not mean that every hadith attributed to any Companion is considered connected. Therefore, there is a general and a specific aspect here. The Musnad is what mentions the Companion, whereas connection must be established in every layer of the chain of narration.
So, the statement of Ali ibn al-Madini does not contradict what al-Tirmidhi and others mentioned.
Especially since this criticism of disconnection is based on the statement of some of the memorizers mentioned in the biography of Abu 'Ubaydah, that his father died when he was about two or three years old in these regions, such that he was not yet of discernment, let alone an adult. Such a statement does not contradict the explicit, established criticism.
The questioner : Does it not imply, O Shaykh, that they treated it as connected and used it as evidence, since they said...
The Shaykh : How is that, may Allah reward you, when you say that he said he did not hear from him?
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : Well, how can this be connected?
The questioner : For example, his knowledge of his father's hadith or something like that.
The Shaykh : how
The questioner : I mean his knowledge of his father's hadith.
The Shaykh : And if it means that each person did not catch up with his father, we say that he memorized his hadith and the one who transmitted it to him is trustworthy. This is what no one among the scholars of knowledge says; otherwise, if we widen this circle, we would close the door to criticism of disconnection.