It is well known among us that the reason for your being barred from entering Saudi Arabia is that you issued a fatwa against killing the aggressors in the Haram, contrary to what Shaykh Ibn Baz said?
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The questioner : What is well known among us in Egypt is that the reason for the disagreement, or your not entering Saudi Arabia after the events in the Haram, is that Shaykh Ibn Baz issued a fatwa to kill them with the sword, and Shaykh Nasir al-Din al-Albani said: They are those who interpret the text, and it is not permissible to kill them, and so on. Is this what is well known among us?
The Shaykh : No, this has no basis whatsoever. I mean, the non-entry has absolutely no connection to that; rather, this is a precaution on my part.
The questioner : Yes, I do.
Another questioner: But the manner of entry, storming the mosque, and the use of weapons and toxic gases, is this also permissible?
The Shaykh : By Allah, these are matters concerning the ongoing fitnah (trial, discord or temptation). If we assume that they can put an end to it by means other than these methods, then that is what is obligatory. And the truth is that this issue requires very precise study by the scholars of knowledge and the religious politicians among them, and this is contrary to the original principle.
The questioner : What they did was more severe than what al-Hajjaj did in the fitnah (trial, discord or temptation) of Ibn al-Zubayr.
The Shaykh : What did they do, for example?
The questioner : It is said they unleashed upon them...
The Shaykh : That is the problem, isn't it? It is said, it is said. Is this true or not?!
The questioner : Correct.
The Shaykh : In any case, torture is prohibited; this is well known.
The questioner : What is it, my Shaykh?
The Shaykh : Torture is prohibited.
The questioner : I mean, this is a matter of tightening things up on them...
The Shaykh : No, this has no basis whatsoever. I mean, the non-entry has absolutely no connection to that; rather, this is a precaution on my part.
The questioner : Yes, I do.
Another questioner: But the manner of entry, storming the mosque, and the use of weapons and toxic gases, is this also permissible?
The Shaykh : By Allah, these are matters concerning the ongoing fitnah (trial, discord or temptation). If we assume that they can put an end to it by means other than these methods, then that is what is obligatory. And the truth is that this issue requires very precise study by the scholars of knowledge and the religious politicians among them, and this is contrary to the original principle.
The questioner : What they did was more severe than what al-Hajjaj did in the fitnah (trial, discord or temptation) of Ibn al-Zubayr.
The Shaykh : What did they do, for example?
The questioner : It is said they unleashed upon them...
The Shaykh : That is the problem, isn't it? It is said, it is said. Is this true or not?!
The questioner : Correct.
The Shaykh : In any case, torture is prohibited; this is well known.
The questioner : What is it, my Shaykh?
The Shaykh : Torture is prohibited.
The questioner : I mean, this is a matter of tightening things up on them...