What is the ruling on killing a cat and an aggressive dog?

The questioner : There is Dr. Taisir, our teacher. Today I will answer you. The story from the beginning: we were guests at the home of one of the brothers, Abu Shakir, do you know him? ... He had a cat, far from you, that used to attack the pigeons he had. So I sought a ruling from him, and I told him, "By Allah, it was reported to me that he does not permit killing this cat."The Shaykh : That he does not permit killing this cat.

Another questioner : I said, "Absolutely." He said,The Shaykh : ؟

The questioner : I told him, "The report I actually received—perhaps I remember—was from Engineer Tamer Ahmad 'Atiyyah ... He told me thatThe Shaykh : he does not permit killing the cat. So Dr. Taisir says, "No, my brother, the one who causes harm is killed." I told him, "By Allah, I think heThe Shaykh : would not agree with this. That is how it was reported to me. I did not hear it fromThe Shaykh .

The Shaykh : But your assumption came from you, and it was not reported to you.

The questioner : No, by Allah, Shaykh Ahmad, he told me this. Ahmad 'Atiyyah, do you remember, O Chief Engineer?

Another questioner : It has nothing to do with me ... .

The questioner : No, it has no relation. The invitation, may Allah forgive you, because he said thatThe Shaykh : he says it is not permissible, so I, in truth.

The Shaykh : Who said that?

The questioner : By Allah, it was Ahmad 'Atiyyah who said it.

The Shaykh : Is this not the one who is predicting?

The questioner : He is predicting.

The Shaykh : Is it permissible to accept his testimony?

The questioner : Of course, on this principle, his testimony is not accepted.

Another questioner : If there is no question, I am the one asking.

The questioner : No, there is a question. Let us hear the opinion ofThe Shaykh : .

The Shaykh : Is the cat more malicious or the dog?

The questioner : By Allah, my information is that it is the dog.

The Shaykh : Is it permissible to kill the dog?

The questioner : But there is aggression here.

The Shaykh : You are not answering me.

The questioner : No, it is not permissible to kill the dog.

The Shaykh : The word "permissible" or "not permissible"?

The questioner : There is no dog that is permissible [to kill].

The Shaykh : Okay, is it permissible to kill dogs?

The questioner : It is not permissible.

The Shaykh : Absolutely?

The questioner : No, there is a specification.

The Shaykh : What is the specification?

The questioner : The black one.

The Shaykh: Huh?

The questioner : The hadith of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) regarding the black dog.

The Shaykh : No problem, just?

The questioner : No, if there is, for example, as he told you, one afflicted with rabies.

The Shaykh : You agreed and imitated him, meaning now, also.

The questioner : This has great harm from it.

The Shaykh : Imitation has dominated you today.

The questioner : Imitation is safer.

The Shaykh : Meaning, imitation is safer in action according to the hadith, meaning, if one imitates a scholar, he will find Allah safe, even if the one imitating is a student of knowledge, does the situation proceed? Yes, the situation proceeds, meaning, but this does not have a hadith, even if it were fabricated.

The questioner : It does not have one, or a scholar.

The Shaykh : How did you permit the hadith for the scholar, while you, for the student of knowledge who is not a scholar?

The questioner : Meaning, if there is no scholar before us, we burden the student of knowledge.

The Shaykh : There is a scholar before you.

The questioner : Not now, not necessarily in this session.

The Shaykh : Let us return and say, so that you gather your thoughts, is it permissible to kill dogs?

The questioner : In general, it is not permissible.

The Shaykh : Okay, and in specific cases?

The questioner : It is permissible.

The Shaykh : Why?

The questioner : There is harm.

The Shaykh : There is harm. Harm is the operative cause of killing when killing is not permissible. So, the cat or cats, is it permissible to kill them?

The questioner : Also, according to the general rule we mentioned.

The Shaykh : According to the general rule, absolutely?

The questioner : No, of course not.

The Shaykh : This is our knowledge, so where did you get that knowledge from?

The questioner : I was amazed at him to the greatest degree of amazement. I am still, as of yesterday, amazed at him for reporting this statement.

The Shaykh : No, but do not be amazed. As long as he is predicting, do not be amazed.

The questioner : If it was reported from the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) ... .

Another questioner : The black dog, meaning, is it permissible to kill it?

The Shaykh : Yes, it is, except the black, ugly one.